popcar2Nov 13

Breaking: Google is easing up on Android's new sideloading restrictions!

https://programming.dev/post/40675085

Breaking: Google is easing up on Android's new sideloading restrictions! - programming.dev

> Google: “Based on this feedback and our ongoing conversations with the community, we are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn’t verified. We are designing this flow specifically to resist coercion, ensuring that users aren’t tricked into bypassing these safety checks while under pressure from a scammer. It will also include clear warnings to ensure users fully understand the risks involved, but ultimately, it puts the choice in their hands.” Thank god. I would’ve ditched Android for good if this went through, and while it sounds like it would be annoying for casual users to enable unverified apps, at least we can still install them.

Show threaddorumonNov 14
So I just read what they are going to do and this article is just clickbait. Basically they still want you to dox yourself but it’ll still work like iOS Test Pilot. Google is still full of shit and lies but hey at least you don’t have to pay them money until enough users download your app if you want more.
Show threadIntegrate777
They’ll probably also release a new API to allow apps to check if user have enabled sideloading. Then overzealous apps like fucking mcdonalds will throw a hissy fit about and refuse to work unless you turn it off. Also your bank too, just to really twist the knife.
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Show threaddorumonNov 14
You know it’s kinda funny that I can’t even run the MC Donalds app without doing some fuckery. But my banking app will throw a hissy fit if I try to sign into my account without a rooted or custom ROMed phone because that’s how they know it’s me apparently. Also shame that my banking app stopped supporting Android 8.0 a few years back. I miss my LG V20.
Show threadrumbaNov 14

Let em all shut me down. If they don’t need my business, I don’t need theirs. I just found out that Casio makes a g-shock with Bluetooth and you can screw with it using python and an unlisted API.

One more nail in the coffin for my smartphone footprint. I just want an 8" linux tablet, a watch that can give me messages from signal and a battery powered access point.

Show threadScoffingLizardNov 15
Please tell me there is a video about this that is not on youtube.
Show threadrumbaNov 15

To be honest, it’s probably the last thing that doesn’t exist properly on YouTube.

But like 99.999% of everything else, it’s not on peertube either.

If you hit a Google search, there are probably a handful of projects for Bluetooth, Casio, Python.

There are a bunch of videos of people reviewing the watch, but they’re watch reviewers. Other than the Android or iOS app, they hardly touch that it supports anything.

Show threadIntegrate777Nov 15

The biggest problem are the banking apps. If you’re standing at checkout and your payment app says

“Unverified apps have been detected on your phone. Please uninstall and try again.”

99% of people will delete FDroid and never sideload anything every again.

Show threadrumbaNov 15
With every credit card in existence, supporting Tap to pay these days. We have a pretty decent alternative.
Show threadaurelarNov 18
Why the fuck would a McDonald’s app care?
Show threadIntegrate777Nov 18

Who knows. Maybe they have that one dev on the app team that’s on a crusade to detect every single abnormality.

He might also be following the rooting/magisk scene. Back then whenever magisk updates its root hiding system and successfully bypasses apps, mcdonalds are the first to detect it again.