Republicans are honest fascists. Democrats are fascists in disguise.

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If Dems are so bad then why did they shutdown the government to save ACA.

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Oops someone didn’t hear the senate passed the budget with the ACA cuts.

Hey hey hey! The crossed the aisle to create a historic bipartisan agreement to reopen it!

Checks notes: ah yes, see? Brilliant negotiations! The gop got everything, and the dems got assurance that they will have a vote on the aca benefits! I mean, the vote will just be no, but come on, what skill! Truly, no one could have squeeze more from the deal!

the repubs got more than their initial ask: delta 8 THC is outlawed and now states cannot use alternative funding to pay out SNAP benefits in the future when this inevitably happens again.
I wait… what???
The dems are truly masters of the art of the deal. All it took was a little bit of immiseration and they got some votes and an excuse to let the republicans set up their plan to cut welfare. They didn’t even have to miss thanksgiving.
The DNC and gop were getting nervous as the ATC was calling out sick and worst, resigning.
the DNC saw it as a sacrificial lamb, just because the recent elecitons had all DEM wins, they are hoping to ride out that honeymoon til the 26th. besides the 8 that supported the end of the shutdown, there were 13 other dems that are up for re-election next year.
That news disagrees with their dogma, so it’s fake news.
They didn’t shut down government to save the ACA, they shut down government to win a couple of elections. Thousands of federal employees went over a month without pay so they could win a couple of elections. They denied SNAP benefits to 42,000 people so they could win a couple of elections. And now that those elections are over, they have voted to reopen government with absolutely none of their demands being met
What is it you do like? You seem to hate everything
Take a look at their post history and it will make more sense. My guess is they’d rather see America give up and fail already because surely their idealized government will then rise from the ashes.

Really? But-- oh… He’s .ml

Yeah, that tracks.

American voters have already given up
Just Democrats and Republicans. Mostly Democrats Because Republicans don’t pretend to care. Democrats will call themselves an ally while embracing you as they shove a knife in your back. Anyone paying half attention would realize that Democrats cannot be trusted.
You’re not the person I asked unless you forgot to switch alts, but you also didn’t answer the question. What is it you (and the other guy) do like?
Seeing that you are in a communist space what do you think we would like? Communists dont support liberals or thier red fascist counterparts. And liberals would rather defend fascism than support the working class
Because they shutdown the government because people were clamoring for some semblance of resistance, and there was an election coming up. They capitulated as soon as they could after the polls closed.

Billionaires plan is now: it’s an IMMEDIATE THREAT IF VOTERS JOIN THE DEMS

the will do everything in their power (like this meme) to drive you away

Democrats cannot be trusted. They will betray everyone as we have just seen with the government closure vote
How can you blame the entire party for the actions of a few? Most Democrats, establishment and otherwise, seem really upset by what those senators have done
Ibdont support the GOP, but the statement could be adjusted for them as well.
They’re arguing against absolutes, like that sithy quote itself.
Is specifically selected members of Congress that were not seeking the election so they can distance themselves from the entire vote, they can say, look what they did. We wanted nothing to do with it.
You used exactly the right word: “seem”
They’ll send a sternly worded letter to other members of Congress
You don’t think it’s suspicious that the only ones that voted with conservatives were the ones that won’t face retribution at the ballot box next year? That there’s most likely several people that voted “no” that just wanted to save face?

You don’t think it’s suspicious that the only ones that voted with conservatives were the ones that won’t face retribution at the ballot box next year?

Who among those who voted to pass this bill will be up for reelection and who won’t?

As far as the Democrats go, every single one that voted “yes” is not up for re-election. They will face no consequences for this.
None of them are up for reelection until 2028 at the earliest. Two of them are retiring at the end of their current term. One of them is the minority whip. You know, party leadership.
That’s a problem with Schumer and Ossoff. Blaming this on all Democrats bereft of any evidence is the stupidest shit ever. It’s like you people fucking WANT fascism
I want both parties and all politicians dead and buried in unmarked graves. Fuck the lot of them for the shit they bipartisianly support.

How can you blame the entire party for the actions of a few?

Because it’s always just enough.

Most Democrats, establishment and otherwise, seem really upset by what those senators have done

You seem way more upset at anyone who suggests that politicians aren’t being honest in the face of massive pushback.

Republicans cannot be trusted AND want to kill you

You sound exactly like a Russian troll would - an American who cared about this country would vote the right Blue reps and make progress

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billionaires fund democrats too lmao

the fact that so many people (and presumably you) think “voting for the lesser evil” is the end all be all of political engagement is perhaps one of the bourgeoisie’s greatest victories

Yeah it’s fucking wild that people are defending neoliberals so hard as if neoliberals didn’t just dick the whole shutdown.
billionaires plan is to buy the current president or congress and do whatever they want anyway, like they have been doing for decades.
The DNC and Dem leadership are the guard dogs of Fascism. The rest don’t matter.
“Lap dogs” might be more accurate.
Just be sure to climb down off the fence before the barbed wire goes up.
the ones who still believe in electoralism are the ones truly on the fence
One of them are wolves in sheep clothing. The other are just wolves, period.
You know to shoot the wolves.

Maybe you’re just a paranoid misanthrope. 🤷‍♂️

“Everybody sucks and is out to get me!”

Nope, Dems are fascists too
downvotes from people who don’t know what fascism is

Two sides of the same coin.

Funny republicans saying I’m helping Democrats when I write in a name or vote for a third party.Democrats say I am helping the Republicans. Truth is George Washington was right. Political Parties have corrupted our nation. I’m surprised that we’ve lasted this long.

“Both sides are the same but the dems are worse” - said by nobody who is paying attention. There is a reason ‘both sides’ is exclusively weaponized towards one party and not the other.
Republicans don’t pretend to care. We know exactly what to expect from them
Still doesn’t make both parties the same. People saying they’re the same are trying to convince you not to vote, which consistently benefits one party and absolutely does not move our government to the left.
What have the Democrats done in the last 10 years to stop the GOP? Every ossue America faces comes from infettered capitalism eating away at society like a cancer, but they still egg it on. The party exists to collect corporate donations and make people feel like they can change their lives if they just vote a little harder.
Voting for either right wing party doesn’t move to the left either
It’s a little to the right vs so far right you get whiplash. They’re still not the same. Do you think any of this would’ve happened under Biden eventually? Of course not.

It already fucking did.

Biden did a lot of good work. He also let Trump have this second term.

It’s like you people always forget how much the high road costs everyone.

Great that people got some benefits… for a couple of years. Now they will suffer fascism for who knows how long.

“You should vote blue” except Mamdani.

Why can’t you see that dems don’t want the majority? They don’t care about the poors? DNC has betrayed progressives at every turn, but they are the lesser evil!!1!

Fuck no, they just make you complacent, lash out at leftists, and stop any critical observations.

Every election they could make amazing campaigns about how awesome life could be if the country turned left. Instead they just point at GOP and scream ‘they will murder transfolk and immigrants’, which is true. But that is not the path to victory.

‘Dems never had all three brances of government’ - then they aren’t doing their jobs. Simple as that.

What I find mindblowing is how people are so quick to blame Democratic voters for something that the Republican party has been orchestrating for so long, and blame them for the limited choices that they have at the ballot box, as if they were personally responsible for the choices they were presented with, instead of pointing at the leadership within the DNC that has been compromised.

“You should vote blue” except Mamdani.

Do you see any other Mamdanis anywhere besides AOC and her posse? Do you remember what happened with Bernie and the DNC despite people’s overall enthusiasm for him?

Why can’t you see that dems don’t want the majority?

Why can’t I not see it? A lot of them are DINOs, and it’s clear as day. And yet, the people like Ms. Crockett who have been pushing back nonstop on the Senate floor this entire time would never let this happen if it were up to her. You fail to realize your own point: that the Democratic party is heterogeneous with conflicting interests and not by choice of the constituents.

you people

Turn that divisive shit down.

Yeah, I remember Bernie very well. Specially the presidential campaign. I remember the backstabbing at every turn. It was so sad and painful to watch. Only to give Trump his first turn.

That was exactly the DNC’s doing. They do it again and again.

the Democratic party is heterogeneous with conflicting interests

Yes, it’s almost as if it was never meant to accomplish anything. It’s almost as if it was hijacked by corpo shills just waiting to stand against any real progress, while appearing helpless when it’s needed.

Fuck the DNC.

Court Concedes DNC Had the Right to Rig Primaries Against Sanders

The court affirmed that the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Hillary Clinton.

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When there are only two parties, the one to the left of the other becomes the left wing party. It’s not rocket science
On the political scale, Democrats currently sit on what was considered far right 30 years ago. They keep in lockstep with Republicans as they shift further to the right, filling the void Republicans have just left behind
The problem arises when both parties keep moving to the right.