MattNov 8

Phone + OS review: Google Pixel 9a and GrapheneOS

https://lemmy.ml/post/38682477

Phone + OS review: Google Pixel 9a and GrapheneOS - Lemmy

geteilt von: https://lemmy.ml/post/38682476 [https://lemmy.ml/post/38682476] > > (translated) Everyone has a phone. Whether it’s an iPhone, where you can’t install a better YouTube Music client without ads, or an Android, where you have pre-installed apps from three different manufacturers plus ads for new phones popping up as notifications. Anyone who reads my articles regularly knows what I’m talking about. Today, after a very long time, we’re going to review a phone from Google, on which I installed GrapheneOS. > > Use the translator in the sidebar to translate the page.

Show threadFairgreenNov 8
I appreciate and applaud your are trying to get away from Big Tech, but… GrapheneOS isn’t really deGoogled—honestly, this post fits better in a privacy or security sub, not the deGoogle one, if you ask me. Most apps on Android today need at least something from Play Services to work. Yeah, GrapheneOS doesn’t come with Play Services pre-installed, but they make it super easy to add, and most importantly: they don’t even support microG, which is the great open-source, deGoogled alternative for Play Services. Oh, and then there is the fact you can literallt only run GrapheneOS on Google Pixels right now… If you’re serious about ditching Google, CalyxOS, /e/OS, or LineageOS are way better options imo
Show threadCorridor8031

just spreading misinformation. Dont make such a comment if you know nothing.

This thread explains why microG is not used and why with microG the properteary google libraries are still used discuss.grapheneos.org/d/…/24

e/os lags behind security and privacy patches, more info in this thread …grapheneos.org/…/24134-devices-lacking-standard-…

CalyxOs currently does not even get updates at all calyxos.org/news/…/a-letter-to-our-community/ …grapheneos.org/…/24791-departure-of-calyx-calyxo…

And LineageOS is just not secure aswell, but i dont know much about this one besides that 🤷

Clarification about microG, what is it, is it insecure?: Page 2 - GrapheneOS Discussion Forum

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Show threadFairgreenNov 9
Most of this is false and/outdated information. CalyxOS indeed is temporarily suspended, but all of these OS that you mention and microG deserve praise for everything they do to help people be more private, deGoogle and use open source software imo
Show threadCyberwolfNov 9

What a weak line of argumentation. Hopes and dreams don’t matter on the face of reality.

There is a reason why Journalists, activists and whistleblowers use GrapheneOS, and it is the only OS that is recommended for such use cases. It’s the only OS that has the receipts to prove their are efficient in tackling remote penetration breaches like Pegasus, and Evil Maidens like Celebrite.

There are no high-risk personas using microG OSes. The ones who did are now dead.

Show threadFairgreenNov 9
Yes and this is indeed the target population of GrapheneOS, people with extremely high security needs. And that’s great. But my point is that such efforts come with compromises and in the case of GrapheneOS it has led to a reduced level of user friendliness for regular normal users. Which is fine, it’s all just choices. Because of those choices, GrapheneOS is not the best option in terms of deGoogling, others are better. Again this ok, you can never do everything at the same time
Show threadCyberwolfNov 9

What compromise are you doing with GrapheneOS+Google services that you aren’t making with microG? In my experience the sandboxed version of Play Services works much better than MicroG, with the added security of using an android native service developed by Google themselves.

You can argue “MicroG isn’t Google” but it actually is since it’s just a bunch of Google libraries with some FOSS costing on top. And again, you’re more likely to get your phone remotely hacked by a silly exploit that was patched months ago but still got you because instead of GrapheneOS you decided to use some other security-void like Calyx, LineageOS or /e/OS.

Show threadCorridor8031Nov 9

oh what exactly is false about microG? be specific. and add a source.

i wont even ask about e/os it is well know that they are behind on updates.

edit: and the other OSs dont really matter tho. I just added this to highlight how you blindly ignore glaring issued in other ones, because of some misinformed understanding of MicroG. and as a warning to others to not get them, if they have the oppertunity to get graphene.