Ukraine's 'Busification' — forced conscription — is tip of the iceberg

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Ukraine's 'Busification' — forced conscription — is tip of the iceberg - Lemmy.ca

>The process has drawn criticism after high-profile incidents where men have died even before they donned military uniforms. On October 23, Ukrainian Roman Sopin died [https://www.rferl.org/a/kyiv-conscription-death-sopin-questions-military-recruitment/33577229.html] from heavy blunt trauma to the head after he had been forcibly recruited. Ukrainian authorities claim that he fell, but his family is taking legal action. In August, a conscripted man, 36, died suddenly [https://unn.ua/en/news/in-rivne-region-a-conscript-suddenly-died-in-the-premises-of-the-tcc-the-center-explained-the-circumstances] at a recruitment center in Rivne, although the authorities claim he died of natural causes. In June, 45-year-old Ukrainian-Hungarian Jozsef Sebestyen died [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l22z5y2zo] after he was beaten with iron bars following his forced conscription; the Ukrainian military denies this version of events. In August, a conscript died from injuries [https://unn.ua/en/news/conscript-jumped-out-of-tcc-car-in-smila-and-died-in-hospital-recruitment-center] sustained after he jumped out of a moving vehicle that was transporting him to the recruitment center. > >Look online and you’ll find a trove of thousands [https://busification.org/?lang=en] of incidents, with most of them filmed this year alone. You can find videos of a recruitment officer chasing a man and shooting at him, a man being choked to death on the street with a recruiter’s knee on his neck. Many include family members or friends fighting desperately to prevent their loved one being taken against his will. > >If videos of this nature, on this systemic scale, were shared in the United States or the United Kingdom, I believe that members of the public would express serious concerns. Yet the Western media remains largely silent, and I find it difficult to understand why. >In the first half of 2025, over 110,000 desertion cases [https://www.rferl.org/a/kyiv-conscription-death-sopin-questions-military-recruitment/33577229.html] were reported in Ukraine. In 2024, Ukrainian prosecutors initiated over 89,000 [https://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/osw-commentary/2025-03-14/army-a-crossroads-mobilisation-and-organisational-crisis] proceedings related to desertion and unauthorized abandonment of units, a figure three-and-a-half times greater than in 2023. More than 20% of Ukraine’s one million-strong army have jumped the fence in the past four years, and the numbers are rising all the time.

I’m curious, do people downvote it because even after 4 years of kisnappings with countless recordings of this happenning daily they still consider it “Russian propaganda”, or are we fully in the “yes, it’s happening, but it’s not a big deal and we shouldn’t talk about it”?
Of course we need to talk about problems, im not very invested nor do i know much about the situation, i did however see this video : m.youtube.com/watch?v=J9niN4jiRig where the desertion problem was discussed. @ 12:10 -ish into the video. Basically what is said is that there is a problem where they cant choose what unit they sign up to but if they desert and then come back within a couple of days they can enlist again and choose their prefered unit, dont know if its true but that is also a take on the situation.
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