Lady Laura Nov 3
Show threadJanne Moren

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It is, at least partly, in Japan. Workplace insurance covers your commute and you get a monthly payment to cover the cost.

But. Because the employer has a legal liability (that's why the insurance covers you), they also have a say in your commute. They may require you to take specific public transport, and it's not uncommon to outright forbid motorcycle commuting due to the accident risk.

Nov 3 at 11:22pmWeb
Show threadI AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑‍🔥Nov 4
@jannem
They cover the cost of the commute, but do they cover your time? Here in the Netherlands, you tend to get payment per km, but the time it takes is still unpaid.
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Show threadJanne MorenNov 4

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It's not completely work hours, and also not *not* work hours; it's sort of in between. The result of litigation, not a preplanned legal structure.

With that said, I doubt a lot of people would appreciate it counting fully as work. You'd not be allowed to do grocery shopping, or pick up your children on the way if it were. Depending, you may not be allowed to use a non-company vehicle at all.

Show threadI AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑‍🔥Nov 4

@jannem Having commute time paid at, say 1/3 time or accruing Time In Lieu credit would be an improvement. I know a couple people that do commute by train a fair distance here in the Netherlands, and often they're reading emails or editing documents for work anyhow.

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