@cari seriously! ten to twenty years ago I wrote a somewhat sophisticated game engine (in C, but with bindings for a bunch of different scripting languages, so sample and demo code for those as well) using Jed! that old timey emacs-lite command-line editor. if my business software wasn’t already written in C#, I would not choose this again. feeling oddly locked into this world, it’s not good. where did we (not you and me, just, everything) go wrong!