omg, THIS

I was bordering on apoplectic when I first heard about K-12 teachers forbidding students from using Wikipedia but then teaching them to use LLMs.

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@inthehands I finished my BA in History in '21 (only 34 years after I began, but who's counting) and in the capstone class our professor asked how many people considered Wikipedia useful in research. Most of the class said no, and he devoted a section of the class to teaching us how to use Wikipedia effectively (spoiler: check the citations, read the linked articles, check their citations, etc.) for scholarly research. We should be teaching that in middle school.

Also, fuck LLMs.

@pooserville @inthehands i went back in ‘09 (classics) and we were told that wikipedia was not an acceptable citation reference but to search through the citations on each page to find the original source. Funny how things change. I couldn’t believe people put Wikipedia in their bibliographies. It has value as a reference tool not as a primary source.

@skoombidoombis @pooserville @inthehands this is the way I learned it, and I think it’s the right approach.

This is also how I came to think that Wikipedia is not the source of knowledge, it is the destination

(Seems even more so now that so much else is overrun with slop)

@pooserville @inthehands This is basically how I teach my high-schoolers. I also refuse to teach them how to use LLMs.