And the Democrats have also made abundantly clear what the Republicans have to do in order to get their votes.

Hey, average web surfer here. I just want you all to know that I see posts like this and it is the message that I’m left with. I actually don’t know what the democrats or even people on the left are saying about this. I just see these posts. I think democrats are the reason the shut down is happening

The information is out there, maybe reconsider where you’re getting news from? Democrats are asking for healthcare to be protected, and are planning a vote for releasing the Epstein files. Republicans are opposing both.

Republicans are exclusively at fault because they have the speaker position AND a majority of members in both houses and can get back in business whenever. They just don’t have all their own members on board yet, so they need enough Democrats to join to reach a majority, and none will do it.

So Republicans are stuck with a majority they can’t use, and have to negotiate, and refuses to negotiate.

I’m just pointing out that it doesn’t matter if the information is out there. I’m a low watt fence sitting lefty. Like majority of people. If people hate Trump and wanted to do something about it then maybe recognize people like me aren’t reading stuff that isn’t in meme format. You get a few seconds of our time. But I appreciate the explanation i quickly skimmed.

I’m a little confused.

You’re a fence-sitting-lefty?

Without being rude… what behavior on the right are you in favor of? Is it the reduction of rights for literally every minority? Is it the clearly stated planned process in Project 2025 that is being implemented? Is it tariffs, to punish our “trade partners” (read: farmers, citizens, small businesses)? Do you think trans people are not human?

I’m cranky, clearly, but honestly looking for some insight. What makes you not a staunch lefty? I don’t think an informed lefty can possibly be fence-sitting; the political landscape is just so polarized and the right is just trashing everything they can get their hands on.

If you’re just uninformed and not paying attention, then you need to start looking around. There are tons of left memes right here, so if you’re not seeing them, then you’re not looking. If you’re seeing the right-leaning memes more, then check your sources and biases.

Oh so good information on the left must be searched while good information on the right is actively searching for me?

See any problems there?

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Winston Churchill

I commend you for using yourself as an example. You’re right. The bar to participate in politics should be raised above you. Unfortunately… that’s not really democracy, anymore. But good argument. I still stand by your right to vote. Even if it hurts a bit inside.

No it shouldn’t be raised up. The left need to wake the fuck up and start playing the game. You all are outclassed against the right wing. It’s not money or anything else that’s making the left lose. It’s their own ignorance and ego. They keep calling the right wing stupid while being beat every single day by them. There is no self awareness on the left.

You seem to be under the impression that I may be part of the tolerant non-auth left. I am not. I am part of the intolerant non-auth left. The right wing is stupid. Fuck 'em and their sympathizers. Also, you’re a right-wing apologist if you’re actually ‘leaning left’ as you claim. For your… uhh… self-awareness.

Oh great you don’t tolerate them. How about not tolerating the leftist who let these Nazis spread their bullshit. How about getting pissed off that 7 million leftist can muster the energy to drive miles to stand around for a single day but can’t be bothered to fight the spread of right wing bullshit.