spaghettiwesternOct 29

Half the Country Sues Trump for Using Shutdown to Slash SNAP Funding

https://sh.itjust.works/post/48793224

Half the Country Sues Trump for Using Shutdown to Slash SNAP Funding - sh.itjust.works

Approximately 42 million Americans—about one in eight people—who participate in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program stand to go hungry after November 1, when benefits are scheduled to expire. “Bottom line, the well has run dry,” reads a message explicitly blaming Democrats on the Department of Agriculture’s website. A coalition of 23 attorneys general and three governors are fighting for the latter. They argue that the USDA not only has the funds to continue feeding Americans via SNAP through the month of November, it also has “both the authority and legal duty” to do so.

Show threadTheReturnOfPEB

One million veterans use SNAP.

So now veterans get less assistance with homes

And veterans get worse medical care.

And now they will go hungry.

Oct 29 at 4:26amWeb
Show threadwhiwakeOct 29
Well, I don’t know if veterans deserve anything more than anyone else. They are just people who decided that they were willing to fight and kill for oil companies. Just add them to the list of normal people who use the benefits
Show threadAmbitiousProcess (they/them)Oct 29
I think what they’re rightly pointing out is not that veterans deserve more than anyone else, but that veterans are often centered in political discussions on the right when discussing people that “deserve” anything for “free” that could help improve or even just maintain their lives, and that it’s hypocritical to then effectively backtrack on that.
Show threadwhiwakeOct 29
Veterans should get the same access as everyone else to every single thing they need. If that access means nothing then veterans get nothing. A person who wants to fight and kill babies for the oil industry doesn’t really deserve additional things in my book. Those people can get really good rates on loans for houses. I’m fine with that, that’s your thing. That’s all you get. Stop complaining. Everyone has it hard. Oh you did not want the mustard gas maybe you should not have gone into the fucking army?!
Show threadruuster13Oct 29
Oh fuck this take. They were kids sold a lie by the powerful elite who had these goals. They get groomed and recruited out of ignorant conservative families then further brainwashed into a lifetime of authoritarian servitude. The GOP takes their entire lives away and lets them die early.
Show threadwhiwakeOct 29

I mean, I was a kid sold a lie by the predatory education system and I got in a whole lot more debt than they got paid to be in the military. Where is my Lifetime of low Interest rates? Where is my lifetime of somewhat pathetic medical care… Compared to zero medical care.

I don’t really care about the people who got brainwashed into being absolute fucking killer cunts. The United States should’ve learned this from Vietnam, when all those soldiers came back and no one wanted anything to do with them because… Guess what… They were the wrong ones.

Baby killers

Murderers

Just following orders

I don’t give a shit. Those kids wanted to kill people, and they were willing to kill people for practically nothing.

If you are a veteran, I hope that if you believe in heaven that you realize that you’re going to hell… Because breaking the Commandments includes not murdering for any reason whatsoever including for your country.

Show threadEmbargoOct 29
Jesus…
Show threadwhiwakeOct 29
Jesus is fake. Murder is real. No excuse.
Show threadEmbargoOct 29
Pretty weird for you to go through my comment history and call me a baby killer, hey.
Show thread🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 Oct 29
Of course only a Christian could have such a warped view of Christian faith and doctrine.
Show threadwhiwakeOct 29
Atheist but… Playing to the Christian Reader.
Show threadandros_rexOct 29

If you are a veteran, I hope that if you believe in heaven that you realize that you’re going to hell… Because breaking the Commandments includes not murdering for any reason whatsoever including for your country.

The Bible is pretty explicit that killing in warfare doesn’t count. The prohibition is specifically of murder. I’d ask if you were a Jehovah’s Witness, who do interpret the verse this way, but 99% of Christians and Jews would understand that commandment as only discussing killing out of warfare. You comment later that you are “playing to the Christian Reader” - this is something that absolutely would not work. (And why? Lemmy is like 90% atheist?)

Also - you get that the vast majority of people who join the military never kill anyone right? Not every soldier goes to the front lines, hell, the majority don’t.

Many people who join are young people who believe that they are actually protecting their country. Because, that’s what the military would ideally do. Yeah, in reality the US is a hegemon that does a lot of fucked up shit, but stupid 18 year olds don’t usually understand that. Someone whose body got fucked up because they believed that they were “protecting their country” because the media and their entire social world told them that should probably not be left in the cold.

And yeah, student loans are fucked too. Making this a “people who went to college” versus “people who went to the military” thing is the absolute dead opposite of class consciousness, and counterproductive as shit. I’m surprised you aren’t an .ml troll.

Edit:

Soldiers also asked him, “And we, what should we do?” He said to them, “Do not extort money from anyone by threats or false accusation, and be satisfied with your wages. — Luke 3:14

Show threadbalance8873Oct 29

but 99% of Christians and Jews would understand that commandment as only discussing killing out of warfare

They would have to have this opinion though given the crusades, genocides, violence etc that this religion has perpetrated. Like this is basic cognitive dissonance stuff here.

Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
Having zero empathy is nothing to announce proudly
Show threadal_KaholicOct 29
Talks about being sold a lie all his life - believes In heaven. It’s like raiiiinnnnnnnnn.
Show threadbalance8873Oct 29

On your wedding day!

It’s a free riiiiide…

Show threadWhostosayOct 29

As crude and shitty as OP’s comment is, he’s right. Being gullible doesn’t mean you get more than others. All people deserve life, liberty and happiness, period.

There is one exclusion, if you’re a Nazi, we’ll bury whatever parts of you we can find after we fuck you up and you get nothing.

Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
I’ve started to see that 50% of lemmings are judgemental and without empathy. Thanks for being another data point to help me see the truth.
Show threadWhostosayOct 29

If you wanna chime in, I’d start with saying what you’re thinking.

I’m not saying theyre bad people or even that being conned into killing people is murder. I’m saying you shouldn’t be given separate rights. Everyone, and I truly mean everyone has the right to those things. There is nothing you can do that will make you more human or less human aside from being a Nazi.

Are you saying this opinion is wrong?

Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
No, I’m saying that when a person argues against having empathy for people who in general have had rougher than average lives, that’s sad regardless of what they did or didn’t do. Empathy shouldn’t be so conditional. But I find on Lemmy that it’s extremely conditional.
Show threadWhostosayOct 29
Well then you’re barking up the wrong tree. I didn’t say that. I said what I said, and it wasn’t that.
Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
You said a few things, but you also defended the “fuck them” guy’s take. I should’ve responded to them instead of you though, that would’ve been better.
Show threadWhostosayOct 29
Likely. The only part I’m serious about though is what I said. Sorry for being short with you. I shouldn’t have done that.
Show threadWhostosayOct 29

Also, this is your last 16 hours on Lemmy. Judging people from the comfort of not having to voice your own opinion so it can’t be judged.

Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
What exactly is your point? You’re just trying to get personal and pick a fight, another extremely fucking Lemmy thing to do. Is it that I disagreed with some people publicly that makes me a piece of shit hypocrite for saying maybe we shouldn’t sit here saying who deserves empathy and who doesn’t? Jesus fucking Christ
Show threadWhostosayOct 29

You know what dude. I already apologized for being short, and you’re going to come back after approaching and commenting on my shit attacking my character, and then accusing me of doing the exact thing you’re doing, and then continue to fucking do it?

You’re out of your mind. Figure it the fuck out.

MY POINT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. EVERYONE EQUAL ASIDE FROM NAZIS.

Reread what has been said, and I’d you have anything else to say after that, fucking read it again.

Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
Yeah because I saw your shitty message later that makes me a psycho and justified your rage
Show threadWhostosayOct 29
Fuck off dude, go project elsewhere.
Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
What am I doing exactly? Am I telling strangers they are wrong for thinking veterans live sad lives and then telling anyone opposed to that to “fuck off”? I actually won’t be responding further to you, because this platform is fucking shit. For every good interaction I have, I see horrifically bad takes and sometimes I make the mistake of responding to them. I probably need to delete my account.
Show threadWhostosayOct 29

You’re still doing it. Right now.

You are projecting your shit into me. Figure your shit out before you attempt to figure other people’s shit out.

You are pretending you’re unaware of what you’re saying and doing. It does not look good and it doesn’t excuse you.

We are two dudes in an elevator right now, you just farted and are attempting to blame it on me. I know I didn’t fucking fart dude.

That’s as simple as it’s ever going to get.

Show threadHikingVetOct 29
I think you live a sad life contemplating how we view ourselves
Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
I was obviously talking about the veterans that need help but don’t get it. Context.
Show threadWhostosayOct 29
Look at that, you did reread didn’t you? And now you’re playing clean up.
Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
I did make the mistake of rereading and it didn’t help. Yeah I’m done here.
Show threadMakhnoOct 29
Oh shove it lol. You get triggered over any pushback, loser
Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
I remember you too. Not sure why you’re replying to a deleted comment though.
Show threadarrow74Oct 29

This ignores the intwntional use of cyclical poverty to make the military the only viable option for many.

This gives them a “volunteer” army that they can do what they please with. Because people will always write them off because they “volunteered”.

You start providing basic Healthcare, food, and housing to the whole population and pretty soon the military won’t make their recruiting numbers.

It’s the age old story. Want to eat? Sell your body to the powerful

Show threadWhostosayOct 29
I understand that, we want that eliminated.
Show threadthedirtyknapkinOct 29
i just think it’s right that an organization takes care of someone that fought for it. ask other externalities excluded. i believe that is a responsibility that anyone that asks others to doubt for them ought to owe.
Show threadTrickDacyOct 29
Thank you.
Show threadbalance8873Oct 29
Ah, so they are just dumb and have no personal agency. Good defense.
Show threadarrow74Oct 29

Some of the most liberal people I’ve ever met are former combat vets.

Some of the most conservative people I’ve met are vets that never say a day of combat.

It’s a fascinating trend

Show threadmic_check_one_twoOct 29
Also broke kids. Historically, the military has been one of the only reliable ways to escape the cycle of generational poverty and/or gangs. The government has a vested interest in keeping poor people poor, because impoverished areas are prime recruiting grounds.
Show threadlumpenproletariatOct 29
Fucking based as.
Show threadhatoradeOct 31
You were so right for this, it’s a shame .world loves genocide and murder this much.