What are the logos?
Arch linux and poop emoji

The logo on the right is for Omarchy, an Arch derivative.

I use poop emoji, btw

Omarchy

Beautiful, Modern & Opinionated Linux by DHH

Omarchy
just wanted you to know I actually chuckled at that!
“SuperGrok” so this is some fascist Arch based distro?
Well look up DHH, main person behind it, and decide for yourself.

So, a link to the author’s page, merch, and barely any text explaining what it is on he front page. That’s a hell fucking no what the fuck for me.

Why tho

Because Omarchy is put together by a pile of shit (DHH) and it’s a derivative of Arch.

So, cooking Arch with a pile of shit you get Omarchy.

Why is DHH a pile of shit? I see this echoed a lot and I’m not familiar with his history beyond his hey and basecamp infrastructure stories after his spat with Apple.

As far as I can tell his takes are fine in that regard. I’m assuming his motivations for his troubles with apple aren’t altruistic in nature, at least not purely, but I don’t expect any businessman to be in any regard.

I’m genuinely curious, I’d love to learn more.

DHH Is Way Worse Than I Thought | jakelazaroff.com

DHH's politics are not normal. Maybe they used to be, I don't know, but as of right now the dude is way outside of what most people would consider moral or acceptable.

Thank you! I will read up.
GAAAAAHHHH!!! WHY CAN’T WE HAVE NICE THINGS‽‽‽
Don’t look up the people behind Ladybird, Hyperland (though I’ve heard they’re trying to be better?) and Brave 😬

I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THOSE BASTARDS GODDAMNIT!!!

WHY DO YOU THINK I’M TYPING IN CAPITALS WITH THREE EXCLAMATION MARKS OR INTERROBANGS AFTER EACH SENTENCE‽‽‽

But isn’t this kind of racist the norm in Europe and US? I thought most people were like that, so it is hard to avoid those.
No, also why would we excuse it if it were?
Because it is impossible to avoid?
That in no way mean we ought to reward people who actively foster it
Ah, a run of the mill fascist pile o’ shit! Well, if he has fear of being replaced, i hear Trump is offering asylum for racist pricks like him; we’ll replace him with a *gasp* brown or black refugee and everyone is happy!

Well here you can find some usefull info: The Ruby community has a DHH problem

Hope this helps

The Ruby community has a DHH problem

The Ruby community can no longer afford to stand silent in the face of DHH and his toxic ideas.

tekin.co.uk
Thank you! I’ll get myself caught up a little :)
But isn’t this kind of racist the norm in Europe and US? I thought most people were like that.
It’s weird how hard that piece of shit is being pushed. Anyone found a backdoor?
well with the horribly written bash and curl it includes, wouldn’t surprise me at this point.

From what I gather, the only thing they’ve got going for them is that they’re actually contacting key people to try out the distro, as well as timing that campaign to coincide with the EOL of Win10.

But yeah, so annoying to see when there’s so many better alternatives by better people out there.

As for the latter, I haven’t confirmed this myself, but I’ve been hearing that there’s a lot of curling into bash going on, so yeah.

curling into bash

I don’t think that’s how that works.

curl <x> | bash

I think they mean usingbcurl to grab something and piping the output to bash so it it executed locally.

And it is pretty common. Things like ohmyzsh use it. I find it scary because you’re running things direct from the web without any package signature architecture. I would trust the omz people but what if their GitHub was compromised? But don’t check any of the source? No. I don’t anyway, but with a bit of fear :/

Even if you check, you should download with curl and check the downloaded file, then run that, as a malicious server could present a normal download to browsers based on user agent and other fingerprinting data, while presenting a malicious script to curl

Wish people would stop suggesting the pipe to bash scripts as an install method but the simplicity of being able to tell all Linux and Mac users to just paste a string into their terminal to install and letting the script deal with any differences between systems is probably why we keep seeing it for major projects, rather than a long list of instructions for different distros

Why are the “better people” not advertising as much now? Don’t people understand that advertising is the key to popularity?

Not sure why exactly, but if I had to guess it’s probably a lack of marketing people in the FOSS world in general.

Recently I’ve only really seen recently the End of 10 campaign from the KDE folks gaining a bit of traction, but even that’s more vaguely pointing in the direction of Linux than anything.

It’s like Bluesky when Mastodon was sitting right there
No signature check on the omarchy rarch repo. Even chaotic aur signs their packages.
So malicious Bash, Bind, Kernel, etc…
Why the hate? I’m out of the loop on omarchy.
Discussing it was inevitable

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Dhh has bad politics. Not sure about the software though.
Just bad politics, or straight-up Nazi?
DHH Is Way Worse Than I Thought | jakelazaroff.com

DHH's politics are not normal. Maybe they used to be, I don't know, but as of right now the dude is way outside of what most people would consider moral or acceptable.

Bad choices for included software too. I see preinstalled proprietary bloat as a dick move but I could get behind Steam, which is not preinstalled, unlike Discord, Zoom, WhatsApp and Google Drive!
a competitive racist racer
Nice enjoyable little read. Now I kinda know what omarchy is. TL;DR it’s not a distro. It’s a pile of user scripts on Arch, doing things, who knows what.
Wow, that’s a very thorough review, nice!
I do hope that these companies start to dig one inch deeper at least before providing grants and stuff, it really is a slap in the face of proper distributions (though I feel like the author’s recommendation of Manjaro is misguided 👀), of course at the end of the day they can give money to whoever the hell they want, but if they want to make good publicity, they’d better make sure they get it right
agree on Manjaro. It’s also easy to break in my 6 months experience in 2021. I’m now on Fedora since. Though I think EndeavourOS is a nicer choice for simplified Arch. Or maybe Archlinux itself has gotten easier with archinstall. But I myself have not tinker with distrohopping since I’m on Fedora.
Same here, Fedora, in particular, once atomic, I’m never looking back on my machines.
Before that I once used Endeavour and can vouch for its reliability
Why the hell does he recommend manjaro still
It’s honestly less bad than the insane bash monster that is Omarchy
For real. There’s EndeavourOS which at least uses the Archlinux repos and seems to be just better AFAIK.
I guess you know shit’s rough when Manjaro is the sane option
And that’s all anyone seems to care about. You don’t hear this shit for all the other assholes in FOSS. Only DHH. It’s embarrassing.

Other FOSS people don’t tend to get loads of money from Cloudflare or all this attention for what’s not even that interesting a project.

The Ladybird project is also run by someone who’s said some bad things but it hasn’t exploded in popularity or received 6 figures in corporate donations. Something feels off about this Omarchy hype… like, the product isn’t even that amazing, so the only thing I imagine could explain this difference is that it’s DHH doing it.

I will see people do this for other FLOSS developers, and I think it’s bad in those cases too. I don’t want to name them because I feel like that’s not worth the effort and frankly we shouldn’t give any attention to complaints about a dev’s personal opinions or character.

By contrast, I respect the critiques of his actual software, which mostly seem to be fair. I do wonder how much people would even be looking into it if they didn’t have strong opinions about his opinions, but as long as it’s accurate that’s what matters.

Dhh has bad politics.

Ok? Whatever. Btw, is there a tiling wm that has stapling; multiple windows in the same tile?

It’s just my opinion, but omarchy looks like that kid who says they’re VERY hardcore.
It’s not just your opinion, look at the screensavers. Basically very animated 00’s 8-bit demoscene screens that say “OMARCHY” (cannot be changed withour recompilation) over and over.
omarchy looks like shit software made by shit people, i don’t get why it’s keep being talked about lol
I watched the Livakiwi vid. Apparently it has some cool fixes for people, too lazy/stupid to google and fix some minor wayland issues.