Frank HeijkampOct 20
@hugoestr Or find a local company and pay them in order to do it for you. #SupportLocal
@rysiek
Show threadFediThing 

@alterelefant @hugoestr @rysiek

It's surprisingly cheap to use managed hosting nowadays, you can get your own instance of all kinds of online services starting for just a few euros a month. You don't have to do any tech stuff yourself, the price includes maintenance etc.

If it's a small company it's also much easier to get hold of support people there if you do have any problems.

I don't know how many of them rely on Amazon, but at least all of my instances are working fine today and they're on multiple managed hosting companies.

Oct 20 at 10:47amWeb
Show threadBoris MarinovOct 20
@FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr @rysiek
It is easy to find a company which can host a server for you. It is next to impossible to find a company able to do that and also offering managed infrastructure (messaging, database and adequate networking). Why I don't know, I guess no one in Europe has both the idea and the funds for that.
Show threadMichał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Oct 20
@bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr hey @flokinet
Show threadFlokiNETOct 20
@rysiek @bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr we offer managed options for server including Matrix, Mastodon etc. Soon we will also have SaaS/IaaS ready with our OpenStack based Cloud in Iceland. Just reach out and we will find a way!
Show threadBoris MarinovOct 20
@flokinet @rysiek @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr I think the biggest unoccupied niche on the European market right now falls in the PaaS category, and especially messaging platforms eg. message brokers. Can't do much at scale without a queue and having to self host and operate usually means that engineering teams quickly move over to one of the big three.
But I understand that offering something like that requires a lot of know how and expertise. :/
Show threadrobOct 20
@flokinet @rysiek @bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr Iceland. Near Eyjafjallajökull? What could possibly go wrong? 🤔
Show threadFlokiNETOct 20
@robparsons @rysiek @bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr we have Elves protecting the 130km in between from lava ;)
Show threadrobOct 20
@flokinet @rysiek @bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr I knew there'd be some sot of security system. Can the elves cope with the apparent increase in magma? https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2025/10/15/global-warming-may-have-volcanic-consequences. Or will you need more elves?
Global warming may have volcanic consequences

Why less ice might mean more fire

The Economist
Show threadFlokiNETOct 20
@robparsons @rysiek @bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr lucky us icelandic elves can handle that very well as they have thousands of years training ;)
Show threadrobOct 20
@flokinet @rysiek @bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr it's hard to find an interwebs company with a history longer than six months, let alone six millennia. Good for you!
Show threadVinicius FortunaOct 20

@bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr @rysiek

I hear https://www.pikapods.com/ gets close to it. And they even share revenue with the open source projects they use!

PikaPods - Instant Open Source App Hosting

Run the finest Open Source web apps from $1.20/month, fully managed, no tracking, no ads, full privacy. Self-hosting was never this convenient.

Show threadWilfried KlaebeOct 20

In https://blog.koehntopp.info/2024/09/30/cloud-cost-vs-on-premises-cost.html, @isotopp lays out that you need a certain size for running stuff yourself to be cheaper than renting pieces of clouds.

The existing US hyperscalers will always be cheaper than a new EU hyperscaler can be.

@bmarinov @FediThing @alterelefant @hugoestr @rysiek

Cloud Cost vs. On-Premises Cost | Die wunderbare Welt von Isotopp

Kris Köhntopp's blog (Fedi: @isotoppinfosec.exchange)

Die wunderbare Welt von Isotopp
Show threadFrank HeijkampOct 20

@wonka It very much depends on the services your systems needs. In most cases dynamic scalability is not required. Instant scalability is a key reason to choose for 'other peoples computers' over your own computers.

Generally one can estimate fairly accurately the number of concurrent users on the system. In most cases a serious local partner is able to accommodate all your needs and deploy your systems on their or your own hardware.
@isotopp @bmarinov @FediThing @hugoestr @rysiek

Show threadKrisOct 20

@alterelefant @wonka @bmarinov @FediThing @hugoestr @rysiek

You did not read the text which is not about scalability at all

Show threadFrank HeijkampOct 20

@FediThing There are still a lot of excellent (web) hosting companies out there.

Especially here in the Netherlands you can find several outstanding companies that consist of 2 to 5 people. They pick up the phone and solve problems instantly.

They have their own hardware and run fully automated platforms, hence they can trouble shoot with a hand full of people. Local companies rule!
@hugoestr @rysiek