Arguably, it’s at least in large part the efforts of socialists, communists, and radical feminists that made some of these possible. But decades of vilification in the USA have made them virtually invisible to the general population.

Vilification that is alive and well here on Lemmy!

Hands up, who hates liberals?!

. . . see? Everyone.

You seem confused. They said socialists, communists and radical feminists. Not liberals.
I am confused as to why they’d misrepresent liberals like that yeah
Are you for real?
Da, comrade. Any likeness to other AI bots, both real and imagined, is purely coincidental.
Nothing like propaganda to make people to go against their best interests. I keep having to remember even decades is well after I was born, I can’t imagine having the ideals of conservatives. As long as it’s functional but there’s no cost to not suppressing others, well there may be at some point when we’re all on a scorching planet and have to make real sacrifices. Of course the old billionaires will be dead for the rest to deal with the fallout… hopefully figuratively and not actually like the game.
There it is. “Umm, akshewally”
Okay, but can I renounce them all to own the libs?
Hell yeah! Heck, in Texas this doubles as a yard sign for your candidacy!
You joke, but it ain’t men consuming all the tradwife “Look at the meal I cooked for my family” content on the youtubes and the tiktoks.
The lie in that is implying that MAGA has any relation to liberalism.
Women everywhere don’t like getting yelled at, and this meme is yelling at women. Might actually influence the men in their lives perhaps, somehow.
Women are like Republicans in that way, no think, only emotion.

So you think Alf was a tradwifehubbs who only ate cats when necessary or for the joke

Yeah, I guess, it wasn’t a funny show

I never watched Alf. I know what the puppet looked like, and I know the Simpsons joke that he’s back in pog form. I only lived through the 90’s once and I was a child for most of it.
You’re not helping yourself with the general broad stereotypes about women. Republicans and Democrats, processing is over there. This is efficiency in fascism, after all
Look, just this evening I’ve been blamed for an ex-girlfriend of mine failing to register to vote years before I met her, that somehow I was supposed to “lift her up” instead of telling her why I registered to vote on my 18th birthday. Women are like tic tac toe, the only winning move is not to play. Which is why for the last 5 years, I very intentionally have not. Women continue to lose an ally in me. They can’t fucking help it.
Okey donkey i hope you don’t be a dick in the future
See this shit? It’s this.
Liberalism is not the reason for almost any of these but radicals working against not within the system.
Liberals taking credit for others’ praxis is their praxis.

but radicals working against not within the system

whom Supertramp from UK back in 1979—yet somehow not Lemmy today—recognizes as liberals

I said, now, watch what you say, they’ll be calling you a radical
A liberal, oh, fanatical, criminal

The problem is that a significant portion of MAGA don’t actually want most of those things.

They feel that freedoms are responsibilities. They don’t want to think about who they should vote for, or have to have a job or think about credit cards and budgets and bank accounts. And they’re not worried about needing a divorce or their husband beating them because they figure “Well I married a good Christian man, that will never be a problem for me.”

They say that now, but they’ll be the first to whine about it when they’re inevitably taken away.

[email protected] misspelling “radicalism” for “liberalism” is peak liberal Illusory Truth Effect.

Get more radical, law-boot licker.

Illusory truth effect - Wikipedia

Isn’t that because of progressivism? Liberalism is free markets and small government and all that shit. Stop letting the lib shits claim these wins.
Liberal is progressive in America. Lemmy mostly doesn’t want to know that.
No it doesn’t. Just because they might end up voting for the same party (because there are only two fucking choices) does not make them the same at all.
I mean in the semantic sense. The AM radio waves aren’t filled with vitriol for people that support a capital-based economy.
you have just given me a great idea for an AM radio program. Bigfoot Sightings, by Mark Foot.
Shit, I’d listen to that. Well. On podcast cause, no commercials. But yeah that’s brilliant.
You are describing Republicans, or at least what they used to be about.
Republicans were only about that before the Dixiecrats left the Democratic party over civil rights.

The founding fathers of liberalism:

  • only propertied men can vote
  • women belong to the kitchen
  • how much do your slaves cost?
Got a source for that?
Like every US history book ever?

Buy a credit card?

Anyway, a bunch of these weren’t laws or rules, but certainly actively discouraged by male society or simply made legally difficult.

1920 The Nineteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is ratified. It declares: “The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.”

1922 Florence Ellinwood Allen of Ohio becomes the first woman elected to a state supreme court.

1923 National Woman’s Party proposes Constitutional amendment: “Men and women shall have equal rights throughout the United States and in every place subject to its jurisdiction. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

1924 Radice v. New York, a New York state case, upholds a law that forbade waitresses from working the night shift but made an exception for entertainers and ladies’ room attendants.

1925 American Indian suffrage granted by act of Congress.

1928 Genevieve Rose Cline of Ohio becomes the first woman to be a federal judge.

1932 The National Recovery Act forbids more than one family member from holding a government job, resulting in many women losing their jobs.

1933 Frances Perkins becomes the first female Cabinet member, selected by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to be Secretary of Labor.

1936 United States v. One Package of Japanese Pessaries, 13 F. Supp.334 (E.D.N.Y 1936) aff’d 86 F 2d 737 (2nd Cir. 1936), won judicial approval of medicinal use of birth control.

1937 The U.S. Supreme Court upholds Washington state’s minimum wage laws for women.

1938 The Fair Labor Standards Act establishes minimum wage without regard to sex.

1946 The United Nations establishes the Commission on the Status of Women to safeguard women’s rights and oversee their global status.

1947 Fay v. New York, 332 U.S. 261 (1947), the U.S. Supreme Court says women are equally qualified with men to serve on juries but are granted an exemption and may serve or not as women choose.

1949 Women’s Paycheck Act (California)

1961 In Hoyt v. Florida, 368 U.S. 57 (1961): The U.S. Supreme Court upholds rules adopted by the state of Florida that made it far less likely for women than men to be called for jury service on the grounds that a “woman is still regarded as the center of home and family life.”

1963 The Equal Pay Act is passed by Congress, promising equitable wages for the same work, regardless of the race, color, religion, national origin or sex of the worker.

1964 Title VII of the Civil Rights Act passes including a prohibition against employment discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, or sex.

1965 Weeks v. Southern Bell, 408 F. 2d. 228 (5th Cir. 1969), marks a major triumph in the fight against restrictive labor laws and company regulations on the hours and conditions of women’s work, opening many previously male-only jobs to women.

1965 In Griswold v Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, the Supreme Court overturns one of the last state laws prohibiting the prescription or use of contraceptives by married couples.

1968 Executive Order 11246 prohibits sex discrimination by government contractors and requires affirmative action plans for hiring women.

1969 In Bowe v. Colgate-Palmolive Company, 416 F. 2d 711 (7th Cir.1969), the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals rules that women meeting the physical requirements can work in many jobs that had been for men only.

1969 California adopts the nation’s first “no fault” divorce law, allowing divorce by mutual consent.

1971 Phillips v. Martin Marietta Corporation, 400 U.S. 542: The U.S. Supreme Court outlaws the practice of private employers refusing to hire women with pre-school children.

1971 Reed v. Reed, 404 U.S. 71:  The U.S. Supreme Court holds unconstitutional a state law (Idaho) establishing automatic preference for males as administrators of wills. This is the first time the court strikes down a law treating men and women differently. The Court finally declares women as “persons,” but uses a “reasonableness” test rather than making sex a “suspect classification,” analogous to race, under the Fourteenth Amendment.

1972 Title IX (Public Law 92-318) of the Education Amendments prohibits sex discrimination in all aspects of education programs that receive federal support.

1972: In Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U.S. 438, the Supreme Court rules that the right to privacy encompasses an unmarried person’s right to use contraceptives.

1973 Pittsburgh Press v. Pittsburgh Commission on Human Relations, 413 U.S. 376 (1973): The U.S. Supreme Court bans sex-segregated “help wanted” advertising as a violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended.

1973 Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 and Doe v. Bolton, 410 U.S. 179:  The U.S. Supreme Court declares that the Constitution protects women’s right to terminate an early pregnancy, thus making abortion legal in the U.S.

1974 Housing discrimination on the basis of sex and credit discrimination against women are outlawed by Congress.

1974 Cleveland Board of Education v. LaFleur, 414 U.S. 632 (1974), determines it is illegal to force pregnant women to take maternity leave on the assumption they are incapable of working in their physical condition.

1974 The Women’s Educational Equity Act, drafted by Arlene Horowitz and introduced by Representative Patsy Mink (D-HI), funds the development of nonsexist teaching materials and model programs that encourage full educational opportunities for girls and women.

1974 The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the Justice and Labor Departments, and AT&T sign a consent decree banning AT&T’s discriminatory practices against women and minorities.

1975 Taylor v. Louisiana, 419 U.S. 522 (1975), denies states the right to exclude women from juries.

1976 General Elec. Co v. Gilbert, 429 U. S. 125 (1976), the Supreme Court upholds women’s right to unemployment benefits during the last three months of pregnancy.

1976 Craig v. Boren, 429 U.S. 190: The U.S. Supreme Court declares unconstitutional a state law permitting 18 to 20-year-old females to drink beer while denying the rights to men of the same age. The Court establishes new set of standards for reviewing laws that treat men and women differently—an “intermediate” test stricter than the “reasonableness” test for constitutionality in sex discrimination cases.

1978 The Pregnancy Discrimination Act bans employment discrimination against pregnant women.

1981 The U.S. Supreme Court rules that excluding women from the draft is constitutional.

1981 Kirchberg v. Feenstra, 450 U.S. 455, 459-60, overturns state laws designating a husband “head and master” with unilateral control of property owned jointly with his wife.

1981 Sandra Day O’Connor is appointed by President Ronald Reagan to serve as the first woman on the Supreme Court.

1982 Mississippi University for Women v. Hogan, 458 U.S. 718 (1982), establishes that public schools may not discriminate on the basis of sex without exceedingly persuasive justification, under the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

1984 In Roberts v. U.S. Jaycees, 468 U.S. 609 (1984), sex discrimination in membership policies of organizations, such as the Jaycees, is forbidden by the Supreme Court, opening many previously all-male organizations (Jaycees, Kiwanis, Rotary, Lions) to women.

1984 The state of Mississippi belatedly ratifies the 19th Amendment, granting women the vote.

Ok, this is unnecessary and unfair to copy pasta this facts dump WoT. It adds nothing. Stick to the subject at hand, read what was written, keep it concise, and don’t read what I didn’t say. Y’all are hiveminding an attack on someone who is on your side.

Just saying that

Anyway, a bunch of these weren’t laws or rules

Isn’t right.

No, that’s all due to leftism. Liberals just took credit for them, and have prevented leftists from protecting them.
Okay but “leftism” is just a made-up word like “cromulent” and “hypothetical”.
I mean…if you want to be pedantic, and I always do, every word is made-up. That’s how words work. Don’t have a word for something? Make it up from nothing, or by smashing two or more words together (lookin at you my German fam 😘👉) or just borrow a word from a different language. That’s literally just how words work. It’s all made up.
So true. Or as William Burroughs said, “Language is a virus from outer space.”

Im a left wing socialist, living in Scotland. From my point of view, American liberals are closer to nazis than they are to me.

I live in a country that has free healthcare, free education. That took the two party system, and told it to take a fucking walk. And we did all this, while under the rule of parliament in England. Are we perfect? Not even close. Even the SNP, the party most directly responsible for all the good shit we have today, is invested with corruption.

But if youre an American, and youre waxing lyrical about how amazing the Dems are or about how amazing it is being a “liberal”. Im sorry, but youre right wing and youre hated outside of the US by people who are actually left wing. I mean, youre left wing party is to the right of the fucking tories in the UK. And tories are, in no uncertain terms, massive fucking cunts.

Something to think about the next time you are looking at the Dems to be your heroes…

The thing is, dems are the only other party choice.

And while dem leadership is absolutely awful, there are progressives in the Democratic party. Like actual socdems and demsocs. The issue is nobody votes in primaries.

There’s lots of other parties. But the Dems sued the socialist candidate off my state’s ballot last election.

It’s moronic to claim the people setting the fire are the only ones who can fix it.

Link pls?

Just dig a little. The Democrats do this every single election. There’s no better options on the ballot, precisely because they spend a ton of time and money to keep it that way.

whyy.org/articles/…/amp/

apnews.com/…/wisconsin-jill-stein-harris-trump-la…

whyy.org/articles/…/amp/

dcist.com/…/dc-democrats-sue-to-stop-ranked-choic…

Democrats seek removal of Kennedy and others from Georgia presidential ballots

Georgia challengers argue that because Kennedy used the New York address on petitions needed for an independent to qualify, his petitions should be voided.

WHYY

“I see no good reason for Mr. West to be kept off the ballot or Pennsylvanians otherwise prevented from voting for him,” the lawyer, Matt Haverstick, said in an interview. Haverstick declined to say who hired him or why.

Jill Stein was your socialist candidate? The party that very specifically, under the direction of russia, runs in order to help trump win? The party that filed late and incompletely?

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — The Green Party will remain an official party in North Carolina, able to field candidates statewide through the 2028 elections, even though their 2024 nominees for governor and president failed to get the votes required by state law. 

The Republican-led State Board of Elections voted 3-2 on Thursday to continue recognizing the North Carolina Green Party, potentially affecting close contests for president, U.S. Senate and governor or other statewide and local offices.

I hope that’s not too complex for everyone to grok as to what’s going on there.

And it’s funny you say they “always” do that because they didn’t used to do that. Until republiQan ratfuckers like Roger Stone realized they just needed to siphon off 2% more of votes and the GOP would win everytime.

This isn’t the DNC gatekeeping elections, this is an offensive line that is gatekeeping the quarterback. Stunt candidates are a tool the GOP uses all the time - ask them what Ross Perot taught them. Or John Anderson. Scant, last-minute candidates who may or may not know who’s backing them are not serious political entities on a national stage.

Jill Stein? Really? Are we gonna do that one again?

North Carolina Green Party retains official status despite failing vote thresholds

The Green Party will remain an official party in North Carolina, able to field candidates statewide through the 2028 elections. The Republican majority on the State Board of Elections voted Thursday to allow the North Carolina Green Party to be recognized again in the ninth-largest state. The party was at risk of joining four other small parties whose candidates for president or governor also failed to reach vote thresholds last year. But Green Party officials said they more than met another standard in state law because presidential candidate Jill Stein was on the 2024 ballot in at least 35 states.

AP News

Claudia de la Cruz was the socialist candidate.

But the fact that Democrats sued so many different candidates off the ballot that it had you confused really drives home my point.

Regardless, the Stein voters should’ve been allowed to vote for her too. Very revealing that you disagree. I guess “democracy” only applies if we’re going to vote for a Democrat?

Well of the three links that worked (its possible dcist is affected by AWS, idk) all mentioned Stein, none mentioned de la Cruz.

So, not really “confused” so much as deliberately misinformed? Hey, speaking of deliberately misinformed, did you read that Stein will still run in NC even though she had ‘t met the requirements? Kept there by the crooked elections board? Any ideas as to why that is?

Would you like to say the state requirements are a deliberate attempt to stifle third party organization so I can go look up that it takes 10% of the primary and fifty bucks?

Stein’s only focused on in one of those. RFK and West are highlighted in the others, though the articles all mention that multiple candidates are affected. But I guess I “deliberately misinformed” you by not spoon feeding it to you?

Or this bot can’t follow links, and picked Stein out of the url?

Ah you know what, you’re right, the first link did mention de la Cruz and I blurped right over it:

Georgia counties have determined that Kennedy, West and De la Cruz each collected at least 7,500 signatures to qualify. Stein hopes to use a new Georgia law awarding a ballot place to candidates of a party who qualify in at least 20 other states.

Malihi heard two challenges to Kennedy on Monday, as well as a challenge to De la Cruz. He’ll hear challenges Thursday to West and the Green Party. Malihi will issue findings to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who will make a final ruling. A decision must be made before Georgia mails military and overseas ballots beginning Sept. 17.

My apologies, you were right there.

That also caught my eye because the radical leftist Georgia legislature passing an election law in 2024 is sure interesting and whattaya know they’re super big on letting smaller parties run in Georgia even in they haven’t qualified in a majority of other states.

Well that’s a huge win for the left, isn’t it! And here we all thought Georgia was a deep red shithole state with a crooked republiQan party machine ready, willing, able, and experienced at screwing over progressive voters at any and every turn.

Looks like Georgia will soon be a worker’s paradise! Y’know unless there’s some reason this law wouldn’t promote that somehow.

Georgia lawmakers approve new election rules that could impact 2024 presidential contest

Georgia lawmakers have approved new rules for challenging voters and qualifying for the state’s presidential ballot. The changes could impact the 2024 presidential race in the battleground state. The House and Senate passed the bill late Thursday as the 2024 legislative session was ending. The measure now goes to Gov. Brian Kemp for his signature or veto. The bill would grant any political party that has qualified for the presidential ballot in at least 20 states or territories access to Georgia’s ballot. The change could be a boost to independent candidates such as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The bill also spells out reasons for challenging voter qualifications, which could lead to their removal from voter rolls.

AP News
Thesis proven. Plenty of other parties. The Dems just keep them blocked from the ballot. And you apparently support that.

It’s a way to keep a lock on the state by fascists, but sure. Dems bad.

sigh

Dems are also fascists. They are both enemies. They are both far right, pro-genocide parties. They gotta go.
No. They’re not. You’re wrong. And you left the fascism tap on again.