Rafael Pérez 🌱"I'm a programmer with a Fediverse account. I spend *most* of my programming hours on this OS:"
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Simon Eilting@rperezrosario roughly half of my past employers have insisted on my using Mac OS, but I always switched to Linux (on private hardware) in the end. It's just so much faster when you don't have another OS between you and the Linux VM that all the containers inevitably end up running on.
MostlyBlindGamer@eseilt @rperezrosario I’m cautiously optimistic about Apple’s native containers idea. Otherwise, macOS is Unix but has actual accessibility development.
ww 🩶@MostlyBlindGamer @eseilt @rperezrosario those aren't really native, it's mostly just a very optimized linux kernel in a vm again
@ww @MostlyBlindGamer @rperezrosario they should call them Windows Services For Mac OS For Linux 3.0
@ww @eseilt @rperezrosario oh wow, it totally is. I’d caught a bit of the first WWDC videos on them and it seemed like a great idea, but I didn’t get too deep into the topic. Not looking at the GitHub repo, at let’s it’s very honest:
> A tool for creating and running Linux containers using lightweight virtual machines on a Mac.
Well, I still get GNU core utils and magnification and a screen reader on the same computer. I’ll happily take a minor container performance hit.
@MostlyBlindGamer @eseilt @rperezrosario yeah, i also use a mac, and while i'm not a big fan of macos, voiceover is definitely something i would miss on linux (as a web developer, for testing websites). and podman desktop while not ideal, it does the job.
@ww that’s actually a good reason to use Windows. VoiceOver has weird quirks (different ones on macOS and iOS even) and isn’t very popular. NVDA on Windows is free and very widely used.
You can keep a safe distance by using a VM. Hehe.
You can keep a safe distance by using a VM. Hehe.
@MostlyBlindGamer wait, really? i do have a vm with nvda and firefox, so far i mostly found that if it works with voiceover, it'll work in nvda. except for like, the way they handle focus differently (i do find nvda's way to be more intuitive).
but, for some reason i was under the impression that apple hardware was popular among blind people?
but, for some reason i was under the impression that apple hardware was popular among blind people?
@ww they work differently but also have weird quirks - all screen readers do.
Enjoy this incredible blog post where @aardrian probably descends into madness (while maintaining impressive composure) by comparing VoiceOver to VoiceOver:
https://adrianroselli.com/2025/02/which-voiceover.html
The best part is each comparison also leads to other screen readers.
iPhones are popular and were much more popular before Android got better accessibility, but Windows is much more popular than macOS.
A couple of references:
Which VoiceOver?
You may have seen this as a thread on Mastodon (my primary social short-form platform) or on BlueSky. Imagine these as the opening to a series of conversations between a vendor or client or boss or PO or whomever and me. Variations on Real Life Conversations “We like the way…
@MostlyBlindGamer oh cool! thanks for the links, this is useful info!