I've recently turned into a blocker.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/55336396

I've recently turned into a blocker. - Divisions by zero

I always felt like it was wrong to block an account unless it was smth absolutely insane. Nazis etc. But now I’m blocking people who’s tone I dont like, or who are baiting or actingnin bad faith. I know I can’t do it as a mod. But i can certainly do it as an individual now. Judgy comment? Blocked. Unnecessarily confrontational? Blocked. This is new to me, literally 3 days. Wonder how this affects my feed. Only disappointing thing is they can still see and respond to my posts, just that I can’t see it. I wish they couldn’t see anything I posted either. What are your blocking habits? If you do block a lot of people, has that affected your experience?

People who I notice just dont get jokes and are in 20 different meme communities being all serious? Blocked.
Meanwhile, you using jokes to denigrate groups you don’t like and crying when people righteously call you out on your bullshit:
I wish there was a hide posts option, rather than a flat out block. There are some overly prolific posters that i would like to block, but their comments are not an issue, just the 40 rapid fire posts they made.
Is me 👉👈
of course not, we all respect our local mothfucker
Oh don’t forget how controversial that was too lol
Opposite for me, there are quite a few that I want to see their posts but not their comments.

Ask your admins about that - PieFed has that feature but only admins can do it and it’s instance-wide.

I’ve done it to a couple of high volume posters who are fine until they start commenting.

Or even more granular. There’s folks that make a large number of posts that I do like in some comms, and a large number of ones I don’t care about in other comms.

If they’re the main one making low effort posts in the Weevil community or whatever, but everyone else is great, it would be preferable to prune the community for myself instead of blocking it or them.

I still think they’re a net positive for Lemmy and want to interact with them, just we may not like all the same things in the exact same way.

More people need to make use of the curation tools available to them in my opinion. Too often I see people browsing /all and then complain about seeing tons of stuff that they don’t like. There are tools that are available to them to help them create a more pleasant experience that they just aren’t using. The fediverse doesn’t have some algorithm that learns the type of content that you most often engage with and feed it to you, you have to more proactively do the curation yourself.

Just as an example, I was in a conversation with one of the lemmy.world admins a while back. We were talking about instance blocks and how infrequently users actually use them. Across all of the users on lemmy.world, only about 700 of them actually created an instance block for the most-blocked instance (lemmynsfw). Only two instances had more than 500 users block it.

Curation tools is brilliant. Thats what it should be seen as.

Very well put. Also the important point of the lack of learning algorithm.

I thought lemmynsfw was sort of ‘mass-delisted’ by most instances? In that users from lemmynsfw.com can interact with the wider fediverse but the communities on there don’t display out to other communities - because the issue is the communities there, and not the users.
I block freely. My time and attention and mental and emotional bandwidth are limited resources, and to the extent possible I intend to spend them carefully.
When I see I have a message/reply in my Lemmy inbox, then open the inbox and see nothing - there is such a relaxing feeling pressing “mark all as read”, knowing I just avoided an annoying interaction from some idiot I’ve blocked in the past.

I tend to ask questions about their opinion until they stop responding.

I like to pretend they’ve realised the absurdity of their own stance.

In reality I’m just easily amused.

I have similar blocking habits. People who will not be enriching my life tend to announce themselves with brain-dead comments, hostility, or starting arguments just for the sake of arguing. I don’t hesitate to block people like that.
Am I blocked? 🥺
Lol no. I definetely remember good interactions in moth July with you I think
I blocked like that on reddit but here I feel there's fewer users and I have to give people credit for being on the fediverse - that earns almost everyone a "well maybe you just had a bad day".
same here, but on reddit i heard after 1000 blocks, it only soft-mutes them, or does something wierd and it doesnt silence them anymore. cant really report people all the time, otherwise you can get banned for abusing report button.
Eeeexactly. Only changed my style recently. And even still I check the profile for repeat offenders.
i do the same you are not alone. besides nazis, PROPaganda, or conservatives. condescending, passive aggressive, or “actually this is or that is wrong, and why you should do this or that to be better” i will block them too. or try to correct you on what they believe his “historically correct of a mythos”.
Oh yeah the um actually is annoying

"No. { Several paragraphs of argument that's not mutually exclusive }"

Arghh hate that shit. I don't know why online argumenters love to start with "No and." I don't block because of it but man, nobody learns how to have a constructive debate anymore.

Only disappointing thing is they can still see and respond to my posts, just that I can't see it. I wish they couldn't see anything I posted either.

I've seen this view in discussions of blocking before and it really bugs me. You're desiring to unilaterally control what I can see and do on the Fediverse.

This is how it works on Reddit and it's a terrible mechanism. It means you can preemptively ensure that anyone who might refute misinformation will be excluded from your threads before you post them. It means you can step into a conversation I'm having with someone, derail it, and then prevent me from responding to your derail. Over on Reddit by far the most common use I see of the block tool is to get the "last word" in on whatever argument is going on, posting some sort of seemingly clever comeback and then instantly blocking me before I can point out the flaws.

For anyone wondering how the blocking feature has been weaponized to spread misinformation, in 2022 a redditor did an experiment: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/sdcsx3/testing_reddits_new_block_feature_and_its_effects/

Testing Reddit's new block feature and its effects on spreading misinformation and propaganda.

[](##My submission does not run afoul of the submission guidelines.) Reddit recently announced changes to how blocking works. [Here is a link to...

reddit

I don’t understand this view either. What’s it to ya? You cant see what the person does anyway. There doesn’t seem to be a point behind it besides control.

Also, it simply is difficult to implement. You have to tell every server “do not show my posts and comments to these accounts”. Other servers can just choose to ignore that. It’s centralized thinking to believe the “feature” will work all the time.

on reddit people have been scorched for blocking and reporting, you can get banned for reporting too many times, or if the specific mods in a sub deems you “report too much”. i block most of the time, instead of reporting. reddit has way too many bots and trolls, propaganda to block them all.

I have blocked people on reddit who have stalked me.

You’re saying that they should be able to continue to do so?

No, he’s pointing out the severe issues with the system at scale. If someone is stalking you on Reddit, that sounds more like a “this user should be banned” issue.
Blocking is not an adequate defense to that anyway. If someone wants to stalk you, they can just not log in at all. You’re posting in q public place that everyone can see. Because of that, blocking only makes sense in one direction.
Sounds like something a sea lion would say.

I hardly ever block individual posters, but communities, I’ve blocked 936 of them at the time of making this post. Sports, porn, anime, or furry shit are all block on sight. Plus a handful of randoms that I’m just not interested in.

I’ve finally got All where it’s pleasant to browse. Takes some doing, but worth the effort if you want to customize your feed reductively vs actively seeking out and subscribing to communities.

How about language issues? I dont browse all bc half the time I dont get the languages. Changing the language is apparently buggy on Lemmy.

Also blocking instances doesn’t cut it.

That accounts for a good chunk of the blocks as well.

This is one of those one-bite-at-a-time projects - just hit a few on each visit, it adds up.

I never even considered using All…
I may have to start doing this. I’ve subscribed to enough that I see enough to keep me occupied, and if I don’t I go to All and add anything that I find particularly interesting. This mean I miss new things I might really enjoy unless I’m not as occupied with my current subscription list. This could be better.
I block any hexbear and .ml

Hexbear is fine? I don’t get why everyone dislikes hexbear. Most smart conversations I’ve had involve a hex user.

I’d rather block more .world users

.ml and lemmy grad are more aggressive version of Hexbear, calling everything “lib” is a common conservative buzzword, for things i dont like. one in the same, so i block that instance too.
They can be very trolly, but also people very much dislike the pervasive ideology on there.
Just blocked hexbear - Lemmy Today

Its just an instance where tankies can exist in an echo chamber without having to critically think. If you want you can read some of my comments here and watch these morons make fallacious argument after falacious argument, put words in my mouth, and project some person who makes similarly bad takes which exists inside their head onto me: https://lemmy.today/comment/17304484 [https://lemmy.today/comment/17304484] Edit: there’s also this thread: https://lemmy.today/post/32415724/17304693 [https://lemmy.today/post/32415724/17304693]

The electronic machine you’re operating, and the electrons flowing through it that illuminate the screen constitute a highly ordered abstraction that your human brain interprets to have meaning. The software implementing that abstraction has been structured with paradigms developed over decades with functionality specifically created for you to manage the information displayed to you. These technologies are widely regarded to have culminated in a digital information age of revolution. One of the defining moments of that age is the point at which the software, which previously was designed to implement the will and preferences of the user, began changing to instead serve the developer. It could be said that the fundamental philosophy of social media software has become to optimize it such that the user continues to use it while still freely feeding it information and being subject to manipulation.

The abstraction has become hostile, and the tools to manage the data displayed are quickly disappearing as the implementation is abstracted away. The ability to block mimetically harmful information is being designed out of software - advertising, propaganda, violent or disturbing content, and even the very algorithms and paradigms themselves used to interact with abstraction are requirements for its use. The filtering and management of information through the hardware and software that you OWN is not just a feature, it is a RIGHT that must be intrinsic to its design.

In my view, the use of blocking technology should not be considered a human social action with emotional weight, but rather a mechanical one like switching off a light or moving an object from my path of travel. They are information management tools built to serve YOU, the user. If the technology you are using does not serve you, then who are you serving?

What are your blocking habits?

I made it through nearly two years and eventually caved after I made the mistake of arguing in favor of the truth, supported by video evidence and a fact check from an internationally recognized fact-checking organization only to be told to "fuck off", a second user said that they enjoyed pissing on my shoe(s) in their personal fight against truth, and some other catastrophically braindead takes. I generally don't like the blocking approach for opinions I don't agree with because everyone has differing views and also people have bad days and that's just life. However, being actively hostile to the truth and being extremely confrontational about it was a bridge too far for me and it was either blocking a few mouldy potatoes in an attempt to keep things tolerable or getting off the threadi/fediverse so I decided to give the former a whirl.

If you do block a lot of people, has that affected your experience?

Thankfully haven't felt the need to block many, so the only thing I've really noticed is that occasionally one of the blocked users comments in the thread for something I've submitted (which I don't get a notification for and can't see) - but then someone unrelated replies to them and then I get a notification for a comment chain which I can't actually load. It took me a while to even figure out why I was getting these "ghost" notifications.

condescending, passive aggressive, or trying to egg you on, is an instant block, or if im nearing an argument, i just block anyways.

Only disappointing thing is they can still see and respond to my posts, just that I can’t see it. I wish they couldn’t see anything I posted either.

I understand. Lemmy users are divided on that because not only can these people see, comment and downvote your post, they can manipulate the situation to their advantage (feel free to use your imagination or search posts about blocking).

FWIW, I hear you loud and clear. Please understand that there are plenty of people in this world who are angry, unfulfilled and can’t/won’t touch grass whose only gratification is to try to make other people miserable. This mental instability coupled with current events is unfortunately unleashed here in Lemmy and you.

Block away and save your sanity. I’m here for the jokes and your memes. If I want to argue, I’ll go to work and get paid. Sadly, you are a volunteer and many people don’t realize that — they seem to think that it’s your job to take their crap. For that, I am truly sorry.

Two of my friends recently blocked .world and had good experiences with users from other instances. Recently, there was negativity in Uplifting News and a .world mod left because they were burned out so please take good care of yourself and don’t take &#!+ from any of us!

First of all, thank you. Secondly, when did you change instances?

Also. Modding is easy in my comms. The biggest is [email protected] at 3k subscribers.

Lol, I’ve been lurking since June but couldn’t decide which instance to sign up with; my friends are scattered all over the fediverse.

Yes, I’m one of the idiots who picked an instance because I like the name. That’s my major decision for the year.

I just subscribed. That community looks good, thanks!

Picking by name is as good a reason as any. Can always move to a different instance
I hear plenty of nice things about PieFed 😃 Who knows… I might see you there.
So do I. You just might
Since I’m on .world… Can you explain why they blocked the instance? I haven’t really paid much attention to the different instances.

Drama, angry people and excessive crossposting and reposting.

It’s a big instance which means a lot more people, so you will always run into a .world user and/or .world community — some are awesome and others are not so great. It was easier for them to block an instance after blocking 50+ communities and people. There’s also this:

Uplifting News lemmy.coffee/post/429320

Cooking lemmy.coffee/post/478931

There’s also drama at other communities like YPTB but it was really hard for me to follow; I saw it because my feed was set to ALL. Some of us come here for the news, memes and the occasional recipe but not to be verbally abused or bear witness to one.

In addition to the controversies, the amount of news articles being crossposted to four other news communities by the same user (user # 1) was just overwhelming. Then, another user (user # 2) will do the same exact thing, unbeknownst to them that the same articles were already posted since the time gap was usually about 5 minutes or less.

What do you do? Start blocking.
Just when you think you have it all figured out, user # 1 creates an alt account and wipes the smile off your face. As you start blocking, user # 1 creates another alt account… and another. Holy cow!

Lucky for us, the weather is nice so to the great outdoors we go. TBH, I’ll probably be very annoyed if this is happening in the middle of a blizzard, lol.

Nice to meet you, FishFace. I like your name!

[Meta] Negativity in Comments - Lemmy.coffee

Recently, we merry mods have been noticing many-a-comments being in the report queue for perceived negativity (the aim of the community being to provide “a break from the incessant negativity and rage”). What actions should we do about these, if any? Do we need a newsome another-rule for this? Here’s what I think: Some skepticism and scrutiny is always quite needed knowledge—especially against information that’s actually untrue/misleading—and any bars I can think of for removing negative comments would apply to reasonable skepticism as well. Thus, the mod team is asking y’all to drop some bars! # Edit ::: spoiler Assorted examples of reported comments > Actually, you’ve missed the mark. It’s not whining about an advancement, it’s legitimate criticism of the US health industry. He’s just saying what we all know to be true which is that regardless of technological improvements, lifesaving care will continue to be ruinously expensive for those that are able to access it and gatekept from many others. > > If you have a problem with comments like these undermining celebration of scientific progress, then maybe you should think about the structural political issues that lead people to disillusionment and cynicism rather than labeling people as conspiracy theorists. > You know “big red“ voted for Trump. It’s a cute story, but I hope he gets what he voted for In the end > It’s too bad that curing patients is not a sustainable business model. Even if this did work we would only ever see it developed if you had to take it twice a month for the rest of your life in order to survive. > > Edit: sorry, I just noticed this is in Uplifting News. So, let’s be optimistic. Maybe global capitalism will collapse and governments will start trying to take care of people. > Nobody said anything about ICE, we’re talking about the military known for bombing weddings in multiple middle eastern countries and then bombing ambulances when they respond. > > If you have the money to commit atrocities in a dozen countries at once, you have money to spare. > That’s .world for you; complaining about Reddit while trying to recreate it exactly > It’s very sad to see hype like this. They only had 30 enrolled, this was just a safety study, and while the data looks promising, there is certainly not enough statistical power, which is why there is no approval yet. > > Shame on the BBC. If you are going to quote invesigators, you should state that they have paid consultancy deals with UniQure. The same two people were equally excited about a Roche therapy years ago… > > But UniCure stock went up 200% today, which is the point. :::

I’m more on mastodon and their filter system is so nice

I made a filter for “idiot did a thing” and every time the news has another article about how some idiot whose name is on my list did something again, as they do, because that’s all they’ve been doing for 20 years, I no longer have to read it.

But I still get the little “something was blocked, click here to read it” thing, so it’s very satisfying.

I don’t block often, but I would expect it’s a similar upgrade.

I have blocked hundreds of communities to sanitise my ‘all’ feed, and a few foreign language instances. But only a handful of obnoxious users. The users I’m inclined to block often end up banned anyway
Blocking is great. I truly wish more people would block. We would be able to all have a more enjoyable experience.
A shared suggested blocklist would be helpful for new users. Growing it organically is the way to go imo but I know some in my life who rawdog the internet w/o ad block without knowing they can do something about it.
If someone needs to be on a shared block list they should be banned.
You’re right. I guess a ban is a shared block list in a way.