Aby#Abolition #AbolishPrisons #AbolishPolice #CommunityNotCops #NoJusticeNoPeace #Criminology #CriminalJustice #ToughOnCrime
Doug Baker - Elbows Up! 🇨🇦@aby The authors of #Freakanomics noted an otherwise unexplained drop in violent crime in the US about 20 years post #RoevWade and inferred that liberalized choice meant fewer unwanted children and therefore fewer neglected kids that turned to crime. Made as much sense as anything else.
@SonofaGeorge - drops in crime rates aren't able to be explained by single issues like that.
@aby True, of course, but interesting nonetheless.
@SonofaGeorge - as someone who studies this stuff, it strikes me as a "carrots cause cancer" thing (100% of people with camc have at some point eaten carrots, therefore...).
@aby I've always known that i.e. that carrots are the gateway vegetable to cancer. Everybody knows that.
SteveJB has moved@SonofaGeorge @aby For that reason, the only vegetable I eat is chicken.
@ NovaNaturalist🇨🇦🇩🇰🇬🇱🇵🇦🇲🇽🇱🇸🇳🇫🇺🇦🏳️🌈 #FBPE@aby this is awkwardly reminiscent of Mr Tony Blair's "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" slogan. This is the slogan that accelerated Blair to power, only for him to then get distracted into initiating an entirely illegal holy crusade.
That said, I endorse this statement, just not where Mr Tony Blair went with it.
@NovaNaturalist - did he get distracted, or was that the Bailey to his Motte and Bailey?
@aby - it looks like he started adopting it once he realised it would have traction, and cut through to the voters he wanted to connect with.. It is certainly propelled him to power. I guess "tough on war crime, tough on the causes of war crime" should also be a slogan progressive politicians adopt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tough_on_crime%2C_tough_on_the_causes_of_crime
@NovaNaturalist - considering that they are neither tough on war crime, nor tough on the causes of war crime—and are, in fact war criminals—I'm not sure how that would work.
@NovaNaturalist - we know that poverty (along with trauma) is a major driver of crime.
If politicians were actually interested in addressing crime at all*, they would push for UBI that kept people to a decent standard of living and abolish poverty - WHICH THEY LITERALLY HAVE THE POWER TO DO, BUT REFUSE.
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* they are not interested in addressing crime because fear is the final filter in the process of manufacturing consent, and crime is easy to create a sense of hyperriskability about and build a moral panic around to keep people afraid**
** "...artificial fears are created with a dual purpose... partly to get rid of people you don't like but partly to frighten the rest. Because if people are frightened, they will accept authority." — Noam Chomsky
Cameron Bosch@aby Or how about banning semi-automatic rifles? That is truly tough on crime.
@cameron_bosch - reread the post.
@aby WDYM? I thought it was among that sort of thing?
@cameron_bosch - which of those points says anything about banning an inanimate object?
@aby It's among the same lines as universal child care. What's the benefit if kids can't go to school without them or their parents worrying if they're going to be shot by some lunatic?
At least that's the vibe I got.
Analog AI@Retreival9096 - I have some suggestions 😆
Drey
CyShe had me until "affordable housing." That's a term thought up by propagandists who didn't want poor people to have housing, so they called it "affordable" because hey, I mean, someone can afford it, so it must be affordable!
But yes, high-quality →public← housing would be great.
But yes, high-quality →public← housing would be great.
LillyLyle/Count Melancholia@aby Universal Basic Income, in other words.
@LillyHerself - definitely, as well as other supports.