Does anyone know where there's a (signed) woonerf in Amsterdam? I need a short clip of a woonerf, but I need the woonerf sign in the shot.

I thought I has some from my videos of Groningen, but apparently not, and I don't have time to head out there on short notice!

So where can I get a shot of this sign in action in or around Amsterdam?

@notjustbikes according to this site: https://mensenstraat.nl/inspiratie/woonerven/
The van beuningen plein in Amsterdam is a woonerf
Woonerven | MENSenSTRAAT

@morfil @notjustbikes and it looks like the sign was still on van Beuningenplein as recently as May 2024, although with quite a bit of tagging
@notjustbikes I know I've seen them around, but can't find it in my photos. Instead I can offer you to opposite.

@notjustbikes I'm told that due to a court ruling that "walking pace" for motorists was unenforceable, you can't build them any more. So they tend to be in 1980s constructions, and in the 80s Amsterdam was mostly building apartment blocks. So they tend to only exist out in suburbs of a particular vintage.

Apparently this came about around the same time as the 30kph residential speed limit, so they just quietly took woonerven out of the books and stopped building any more.

@spacehobo I know that, but for the context of this clip I need the sign, and it needs to be in the Netherlands.
@spacehobo @notjustbikes reality disagrees. Pretty much our whole neighborhood is woonerf and it was built in phases between 2018 and now.
@pc @notjustbikes So it has a motorised speed limit of 5kph?

@notjustbikes

Theres this map service online with all the verkeerborden in the Netherlands https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=9ca1d52c4540439daef96bde8f998a42

That has everything, I made a version that only has the G5 Erf sign, you can see that here: https://gspeed.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/basic/index.html?appid=ccd6652edf67494286ab683c3051bf23
You need to really zoom in, and it may take a few seconds to minute to load.

ArcGIS

@notjustbikes Just updated a data source, should load faster now, and a picture should pop up showing you the sign in question
@gspeed0689 @notjustbikes Wow! I will probably never need this but amazing that it exists. Same as the map of all trees in Utrecht (and other cities via their websites, presumably).
@ednl @notjustbikes The spatial data infrastructure of the Netherlands in my opinion is top notch, the amount and diversity of data is a dream for anyone that does GIS and map making.
@gspeed0689 @ednl @notjustbikes Isn't it the other way around? First maps are drawn and then the country is made accordingly. Like, maps exist in detail before the land is created. For example, the province Flevoland.

@rrustema020 @ednl @notjustbikes Yes, but my statement is more about the availability of the data across the landscape. Coming from the US I'm amazed to see it all so well organized, in open formats, good standards, and up to date.

The BAG and fact that there is an always up to date geocoder available is just gezellig.

@gspeed0689 @ednl @notjustbikes

I petitioned to have the postcode for free and included in the BAG (register of buildings). It used to be in the hands of the privatised postal services. To be used for a €5k per year fee. "Free the postcode!" https://bevrijddepostcode.petities.nl

The government reacted with "well, it has always been in good hands with our postal services, but we could just as well include it in the free data."

And @geotoko now makes the data available in handy and up-to-date formats.

bevrijd de postcode

De petitie is succesvol! De postcodetabel komt in het publieke domein vanaf 1 februari 2012. Vroeger alleen tegen betaling en onder strenge voorwaarden bij TNT. De rechter heeft de bezwaren van TNT/PostNL verworpen. Zie nieuwsbericht.

@gspeed0689 thanks! This is absolutely perfect for what I need!
@notjustbikes We have few in my neighborhood here … in Barcelona. (Almost the entire neighborhood is single platform / pedestrian priority but this actually isn't the most common signage for it.)
@notjustbikes this one is more common.

@notjustbikes For future needs, you could query OSM data with e.g.:

way[highway=living_street]({{bbox}}); out geom;

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2dp3

Find other tags (such as this unintuitive "highway" value of living street) on the OpenStreetMap wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
Or any other element that exists somewhere in the world :)

overpass turbo

A web based data mining tool for OpenStreetMap which runs any kind of Overpass API query and shows the results on an interactive map.

@luc someone tooted recently of another way of tagging them without disrupting the highway tag. Not sure how common it is.
@mjr I'd refer to the wiki for details of how a feature must be tagged (and thus searched)
@luc Yes, good move. And then you'll find the alternative too:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:living_street
Key:living_street - OpenStreetMap Wiki