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Framework supporting far-right racists? - Lemmy.World

Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @[email protected] [/u/[email protected]] (French speaking) The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them). I agree with the point made by the OP : > The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others. I’m disappointed in framework’s answer so far

so Hyprland is made by Facist, is this correct? never heard of that, but i wanted to use it at some point, guess i wont be doing that then, good to know

from what i’ve seen, hyprland’s community is highly toxic and rife with fascists. is the maintainer a fascist? idk, but you know what they say about nazi bars

the other project framework is under fire for supporting, omarchy, is proudly made by DHH, who is a known far-right racist. this one is not up for debate

DHH Is Way Worse Than I Thought | jakelazaroff.com

DHH's politics are not normal. Maybe they used to be, I don't know, but as of right now the dude is way outside of what most people would consider moral or acceptable.

I never had contact with this part of the hyprland community. I had quiet son in dep discussions with maintainers and a currently 5k lines deep in, in removing technical depts from the codebase.

I never had anything but pleasent communications.

I would love to see some examples (and if someone uses the terms highly toxic and rife with fascist I expect a lot examples) of this.

Be aware, as a German, I am highly sensitive on the missuse of the term fascist. For example many use the term fascist to describe Trump. That is not true. Trump is straight out a fucking Neo Nazi

many use the term fascist to describe Trump. That is not true. Trump is straight out a fucking Neo Nazi

can you explain that distinction? I was under the impression that neo nazis were fascists.

Yes they are. It is just more precise. Fascism itself is not inherently racist or has some kind of master race. Neo Nazis do.

And of course calling him a fascist is not inherently false. But just leaves out 80% of it

Eh I would point out that fascism doesn’t need to be racist to be evil, AND that there’s a reason why fascism is the preferred form of government for racists.

So, like, you’re not technically wrong but I think the point you’re making is bordering on moot.

Fascism is bad. Racism is bad. Most racists are fascists. Many fascists are racists.

The venn diagram is of fascists and bigots of one type or another is damn close to a perfect circle

It was ja joke. Someone who is very particular about the meaning of words is sometimes called a “word Nazi” but it should be “word fascist”. Tried to play on it and forgotten that nobody outside Germany has any association with this m)
What, fascism is definitely inherently racist. Everything boils down to people with certain qualities are more fit to rule and should be the ones filling the community.

Nope, sry to be a little bit picky here but the definition of a Nazi is more or less “rassist fascist”. But bot vice versa. Have for example a look atBrazilians integralism. Or Salazar’s regime in Portugal .

If you weaken those definitions you will trivialize what Nazis did. It is so so so much worse then “simple facism”, pleas excuse this awful term in lack of any better

Brazilian integralism - Wikipedia