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Apple Faces French Investigation Over Opt-In Siri Voice Recordings
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/10/08/apple-france-siri-opt-in-recordings
Apple Faces French Investigation Over Opt-In Siri Voice Recordings

Link to: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-06/apple-faces-probe-in-france-over-voice-recordings-made-by-siri

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Oct 8 at 2:13pmDF Tootbot
Show threadJimmy CallinOct 8

@daringfireball From the whistleblower's original article: https://techworkerhandbook.org/stories/thomas-le-bonniec/

> I heard people talking about their cancer, [...] who had no intention to activate Siri whatsoever.

I think you agree that by opting in, you don't give Apple a blanket right to always record you all the time. If Siri has a large rate of false positive activation, especially after removing the "Hey" from "Hey Siri", and this results in a large number of non-intentional recordings, don't you think it at least warrant an investigation? I don't understand why you would be so against that.

Thomas le Bonniec – The Tech Worker Handbook

Show threadNiléaneOct 8

@daringfireball @gruber If you had read more than a paragraph about what you were writing about, you'd know that the investigation concerns a time period that starts *before 2019* (2014). And as you know, until 2019 there was *no* opt-in. Apple even had to apologize publicly after that was revealed by The Guardian.

Some guy even blogged about it at the time: https://daringfireball.net/2019/08/apple_siri_privacy

Apple Addresses Siri Privacy Protections

Basically, Apple is admitting they fucked up on this grading thing, they’re owning up to it, and are committed to doing everything they should have been doing all along to protect users’ privacy *and* make everything as clear as possible to users.

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Show threadNitOct 8
@nileane @daringfireball @gruber thank you. It seemed way too obvious a rejection for the investigation the way this DF article was written.
Show threadfatlazycatOct 8
@nileane @daringfireball @gruber EU ranting really knows no end 🤯
Show threadJorg KennisOct 9
@nileane @daringfireball @gruber
“Amazing stuff continues to happen in the EU.”
Says an American.
For fucks sake.
Show threadLeon ZandmanOct 10
@nileane @daringfireball @gruber Something’s rotten in the city of Philadelphia… Have the courage to admit you were wrong on this one, John.
Show threadNitOct 8

@daringfireball Apple likely has nothing to worry about if they’re following all the rules and the world will keep spinning.

> Amazing stuff continues to happen in the EU.

Jeez, your writing continues to be part pathetic considering what’s happening in your own back yard.

Show threadebbiOct 9
@NitP people still read his blog?!
Show threadEFELOct 8

@daringfireball From that Politico article you linked:

„Julien Bayou was inspired by a class action launched in the United States in 2019 for the same reason. Apple has always denied and continues to deny any reprehensible act in this case. However, the company agreed, at the end of December 2024, to pay $95 million (€92.5 million) to end the prosecution of American consumers, who accused it of recording their private conversations without their knowledge.“