[Video] German police punches hijab wearing woman in the face at anti genocide protest in Alexanderplatz

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BE 12211 is a bitch
Afaik that is a unit code, not a personal identifier. But I could be wrong
My bad, 31405 is a bitch

Well, that was 100% a conscious decision to throw a punch at an unarmed protester…

We need to bring back and eye for an eye, he should get punched by someone with equal force that he used.

Ban police from wearing armor or bearing stopping g force, that’ll get them to be peaceful
He should get punched with someone of the same weight class disparity above him that he had to her.
Exactly this. Weight classes exist for a reason. Inertia is a thing, and smaller people have less of it to throw around. A tiny person will get their shit rocked by a big person, even if the big person is only half-assing their punches. A concussion is when the brain bounces off the inside of the skull, and someone in a higher weight class is much more likely to cause that. Look at how her head snaps back when she gets hit. Now imagine if it was someone her own size, and imagine how much less impact it would have.
Aye, theres something to be said for the added weight of equipment too. Someone running into you on the street deliver so much more of a whack when they have a bag on their back.
itt: lemmy treating illegal protests the same as boxing matches

illegal protests

You’ve already lost the argument.

[Video] German police punches hijab wearing woman in the face at anti genocide protest in Alexanderplatz - SDF Chatter

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At the very least, someone who has proven they cannot be trusted in a position of power should be removed from that position. The reason why so many people believe that ACAB is because even when cops do stuff that leaves no room for any benefit of the doubt, there are no repercussions.
That looked personal

“Content not viewable in your region”

Thanks Keir Starmer, you authoritarian cunt

They block certain imgur videos now? Or all of imgur?

Here is a reupload on catbox: files.catbox.moe/bm9z9t.mp4

I think Imgur blocked the UK entirely themselves rather than comply with the online spying act
Cunt needs to get his head kicked in.
A pallet swap and you'd legit think this was something out of China.
“What are we, a bunch of Asians?”
“What are we, a bunch of Asians?!?!?!”
Lmfao good one. Seriously, though, I at least associate Nazis more with putting people in camps than "just" punching them.
You’re right, Germany famously doesn’t segregate children by race in schools.
Discrimination in German Schools

A summary of key facts that point to a structural problem with discrimination against children of migrant families in Gemany's schools

You can’t protest in china without a tank running you over
So… what the context? Why did he punch her? Why did they come back mob handed to drag her out of there? I hate videos that only start with the assault, but nothing that leads up to it.
In Germany, police are held to a high standard because their education is comparatively rigorous. That was not crowd control or de-escalation, it was police brutality. What preceded this is not entirely relevant to the officer’s action.
Are they really held to a higher standard though? Unless we see this cop face serious consequences, that’s just not true
No, they just get their sentence dismissed per default. Nothing will happen to the guy in the video, they’d rather prosecute the workman for interfering with his hand while he was at work.
Context will always matter, and no amount of “only a fascist would say that” is going to make that not true.
I mentioned nothing about fascism. I agree context matters, especially involving police escalations. But I also believe that there is a line police should not cross, especially when they train for years.

You didnt, others who agree with you did. Context matters, theres no * on that. It matters. Videos that start with the incident, but not that build up, are selling you outrage. Even if its totally what it appears to be, police brutality, we still need to see the context of WHY the police acted like that. Was it something she said? Something she did or didnt do? Was it someone else, and they made a mistake zeroing in on her? Who the fuck knows, because the video only wants to get you all rage baited and clicking.

The idea of being pissed off at me for wanting more information, is fucking weird and everything that is wrong with the internet.

I’m not pissed off, though? I just know police in Germany train for much longer than in the US and in other countries. So, even if I had context that the woman punched an officer, for example, I still think it’s police brutality for the officer to punch her.

There are more efficient ways to de-escalate or to subdue than to punch someone, especially since there were multiple officers with armor equipped.

Again, you may not be. But others sure as fuck are.

But, lets play your game. Someone spits in your face. What do you do? Someone has a weapon. What do you do? Someone grabs your dick/your girlfriends pussy. What do you do? If the answer to any of these isnt “punch them in the fucking face”, I really dont know what to tell you.

I am not an Officer of the Law. I hold police to higher standards than I do regular people because of their training. I really don’t know what to tell you.
Youve already told me.

It’s literally a crime for any of those reasons to assault anyone in countries I a bit familiar with, for any cop or private citizen.

Someone who spits in you face should be persecuted.
Someone who punches someone should be prosecuted.

These are the basics of law.
Otherwise it would be justified to punch a cop back in the face bcs they punched me in the face (bcs I spit in their face). It doesn’t end. The legal system is there literally to prevent that endless cycle of violence (unless in prefect anarchy with diligent participants, but nobody is arguing that here since “a cop” voids that).

Otherwise it would be justified to punch a cop

Dude, why are you punching a cop in the face??? Are you unhinged???

See how I removed the context there, and what happened? Context, my good chap. IT FUCKING MATTERS!

That is my argument.
You can remove that context for the legally part.

I am the one saying that it shouldn’t matter why I punched a cop & that I should be prosecuted for that.
(Just like they if they punch me.)

I dont care what you want. I want context for why things happen. Thats how we are able to understand them. All you whiny fucking cunts, downvoting and jumping through hoops to make me out to be a bootlicker, can take a good long hard suck of my arse.

I asked for context, thats it. CONTEXT. What happened? And look at the fucking state you all? Honestly, just fuck off. Every single one of you fucking weirdos who think asking for more information is bootlicking, fascist, or whatever other buzzword you want to push your narrative with.

If I raped you, and you came back and killed me for it later. Yes. Thats illegal. But knowing WHY matters, doesnt it? It has some baring on the events that transpired, doesnt it? You fucking mong.

Thank you for asking for context. This video is deliberately cut short.
How do you sleep at night trying to justify shit like that?

The woman wanted to put her finger in the cop’s butthole.

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Lemmy

Wait you’re a rapist too?
[Video] German police punches hijab wearing woman in the face at anti genocide protest in Alexanderplatz - sh.itjust.works

Lemmy

So you just think that there are circumstances where police can punch someone in the face that isn’t actively attacking them with overwhelming force?

That’s fascists af.
A face punch should immediately be prosecuted in court & ofc the fine include a ban from law enforcement.

Thats kinda the point of context, isnt it?

When I was 20, I booted utter fuck out of a guy. The bouncers in the club, didnt know the context. They just saw me walk up to a dude and start punch him in the face, down him, and then start booting into his skull. I was the asshole in their view. What they didnt know, was that moments earlier that guy had stuck his hand down the back of my girlfriends jeans and tried to finger her arsehole.

Context matters.

If there was a problem, why didn’t he arrest her then? Is there an offense that is legally repaid by the cop being allowed one punch to the offenders face? I agree context matters, but there’s no context where this cops behavior is justified to me.
I dont know… because the context is missing. Am I not saying it right? God you people are fucking weird. Arguing for LESS information. Utterly fucking bizarre people.
That is the one thing that starts to enrage me about the fediverse; once the local hivemind decided something no amount of discussion or information is allowed. No more critical thinking even though most likely we would reach the same conclusions…

Did the hive mind really decide cops should in no context go to an individual & punch them in the face or is that just an universal logical thought known to the majority about public servants?

The law doesn’t mandate face-punching.
If someone breaks the law, there are other prescribed procedural consequences. Not some sadistic ronin desperado impersonating justice as they individually see fit outside the context of law.

If someone is guiltily of something, "a slap on the wrist’ is a metaphor, not a literal means of dispensing justice by the law enforcement.
(Also reserved for those with power & who massively break the law, but that is another convo.)

Person has a bomb in a public place. Cop punches that person in the face, and takes control of the bomb. That would be one example of context in which a cop punching someone would be valid.

This is why context is important, because taking a snap shot of something is never the whole picture. If the cop is in the wrong, I want the whole picture. Not just the part you say is relevant. For example, did the cop punch anyone else before or after punching her?

But no, just “ThErE iS nO cOnTeXt!!!”

I don’t think you know what a bomb is.
I dont think you know what a good argument is.
Without going into technicalities there’s the notion of reasonable force and proportional response and all that which is literally bound to the context of an event. But you miss my point; I’m not discussing the event depicted here specifically. I’m criticising the lack of critical thinking and openness to arguments. Reaching the conclusion that this cop mustn’t have punched that particular person for the exact context should not be taboo. We should be, in full understanding of the situation, condemning it.
But my question also stands: is there a circumstance where that’s acceptable, even theoretically? Why would a punch suffice and not arrest them? That’s the official legal remedy for an infraction?
I dont know, because I dont know the context of the punch. Are you fucking special in the head?

personal attacks

You keep dodging the question, you obviously don’t have a good answer. Likely because there simply isn’t one. But hey, feel free to start slinging personal insults when you can’t win
You don’t know the context and can’t find a context where a police can punch someone yet here you are justifying police brutality