mesaOct 7
Google Confirms Non-ADB APK Installs Will Require Developer Registration
Google Confirms Non-ADB APK Installs Will Require Developer Registration

After the news cycle recently exploded with the announcement that Google would require every single Android app to be from a registered and verified developer, while killing third-party app stores …

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Show threadKairosOct 7
The only advantage Android has over iOS is being able to install [any] software.
Show threadmesaOct 7

Just about. There used to be more, but if im honest, if it works in iOS then its a decent experience most of the time.

But my custom apps makes or breaks my phone. Its so convenient.

Show threadKairosOct 7
iOS is infinitely more polished than Android. It’s rather stable and at least the main notification system isn’t that bad for privacy.
Show threadR00bot

Really depends which spin of Android you have. I have a Nothing Phone 2 and the OS is arguably more polished than on my SO’s iPhone 14, which frequently has bugs, lag, and crashes. You can’t really generalise about Android when there are so many versions of it.

That being said I’ll probably be looking into Linux phones in the next few years because I’m tired of corporations trying to control my devices.

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Show threadKairosOct 8
Well I’m using graphene and it’s so laggy and can’t keep more than one app open at a time, so.
Show threadAttacker94Oct 8
What phone, you must be running one of the first ones they made graphene for
Show threadKairosOct 8
lemmy.today/post/36815604
Is there any way to keep more than one app open at a time? - Lemmy Today

Whenever I go to my homescreen or otherwise load another app the previous one closes. If I’m browsing Lemmy and I open a page linked on a post to read it, my app will have reset itself when I close the tab and I either have to give up or root around for the post. This OS is borderline unusable in this state. It even evicts my homescreen app so there’s a 5-10 second lag when tapping the circle button. Any tips? I have 8GB of RAM, which should be more than enough for a dozen apps.

Show threadAttacker94Oct 8
Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see what phone you have in that post.
Show threadKairosOct 8
I didn’t include it because it doesn’t matter. 7a.
Show threadAttacker94Oct 8
I’m not sure I follow, it seems like the issue you are running into is a hardware one, the software may be trying to compensate, but it seems like a performance issue first and foremost. I’m just curious if that is the case since I can’t think of another difference between you and I.
Show threadKairosOct 8
Its a RAM issue.
Show threadR00botOct 8
Yeah GrapheneOS is open source bro. Probably doesn’t have full compatibility with your phone if I had to guess. That’s really not a like-for-like comparison to iOS.
Show threadmarkkoOct 8
Also running GrapheneOS (on an older phone) and this is not something I’ve ever experienced, nor seen as an issue in the forums.
Show threadKairosOct 8
lemmy.today/post/36815604
Is there any way to keep more than one app open at a time? - Lemmy Today

Whenever I go to my homescreen or otherwise load another app the previous one closes. If I’m browsing Lemmy and I open a page linked on a post to read it, my app will have reset itself when I close the tab and I either have to give up or root around for the post. This OS is borderline unusable in this state. It even evicts my homescreen app so there’s a 5-10 second lag when tapping the circle button. Any tips? I have 8GB of RAM, which should be more than enough for a dozen apps.

Show threadmarkkoOct 8

I wasn’t denying the fact that you’re experiencing this issue, but since this is the first I’ve heard of something this bad in my 3 years of using GrapheneOS, this does appear to be a fairly unique case.

Provided you are using an otherwise well-functioning and currently supported device (and not an emulator), and that you are using a stable release installed via an official method (and there were no install issues), your best bet would be to ask for help in one of the community chats or forums: grapheneos.org/contact#community

You will be asked to share which device you are using though, which you did not seem comfortable doing in the post you linked to.

Unrelated, but I learned about the Android “task manager” (Running Services) from that post of yours, so thanks for sharing that.

GrapheneOS contact information

Contact information for GrapheneOS.

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Show threadKairosOct 8
That’s not a proper task manager
Show threadmarkkoOct 8
That’s why I put it in quotes. Being able to view the RAM usage is useful though. Best of luck with resolving your issue.
Show threadKairosOct 8
Thanks. It seems the only option is to restart the phone every day. It’s manageable.
Show threadmarkkoOct 8

Yeah that unfortunately seems to be the only option if you don’t want to completely reset your device or remove apps one at a time to find the culprit. And there’s no guarantee either of those will work anyway.

I’ve actually found a small number other users reporting a similar issue, though dev responses all seem to believe the issue is likely caused by apps rather than the OS. The fact that the issue is exclusive to GrapheneOS doesn’t appear to have swayed them into looking into it unfortunately.

If I were in your position I’d probably use the Auto Reboot setting so at least you don’t have to do it manually every day. It reboots after a specified number of hours without an unlock, so it’s ideal for when you’re asleep.

Show threadKairosOct 8
APKs are so goddamn huge and the OS can’t swap parts of them out of memory because it’s conpressed data and that would exponentially increase cache misses.
Show threadmarkkoOct 8

I guess it depends on the specific apps we use. Some can be pretty massive, but I have heaps of APKs that are <30MB, and even several that are <1MB.

Maybe a couple of large enough apps could be the issue if you always have them open, or if they are running services on your phone.

Show threadsunth1efOct 8
Grapheme is smooth as can be for me and great for multitasking
Show threadKairosOct 8

“It works on my machine”

The fact of the matter is that Android is hacked on top of Linux and there’s endless problems because of it. One part is that there’s no task manager and system apps eat up well over half my memory which means that once I open one app, the other needs to be immediately evicted from RAM

lemmy.today/post/36815604

Is there any way to keep more than one app open at a time? - Lemmy Today

Whenever I go to my homescreen or otherwise load another app the previous one closes. If I’m browsing Lemmy and I open a page linked on a post to read it, my app will have reset itself when I close the tab and I either have to give up or root around for the post. This OS is borderline unusable in this state. It even evicts my homescreen app so there’s a 5-10 second lag when tapping the circle button. Any tips? I have 8GB of RAM, which should be more than enough for a dozen apps.