🍹Early to RISA 🧉Anon watches Lord of the Rings
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InternetCitizen2And Sauron didn’t have a few?
🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 Have you not played Luigi’s Mansion?
\[DUMBASS]/Suck them all off, got it!
F/15/It does make a ton of thematic sense that the counter to a purely magical threat is a technological weapon.
You might like Arcanum: Of Steamworks & Magicka Obscura. The clashing of magic and technology plays a major role in the mechanics.
“I ain’t afraid of no ghost”
This may come as a shock to anons who filter their entire existence through video games but literature does not need to operate according to rules of game balance.
Man, even games don’t need to operate according to the rules of game balance. Just look at [current hot live service game’s most recent update]!
Man, [current hot live service game] has really gone down hill since [game’s most recent update] released. It’s like the Devs don’t even care anymore, y’know?
zloubidaIt just makes other threars in the world feel a bit meaningless
No necessarily. Sauron was taken by surprise, so he may have countermeasures at his disposal if there would be other encounters.
Even if not, it makes the refusal of Aragorn to use them again even more noble, which is the literary goal of their existence.
Even if not, it makes the refusal of Aragorn to use them again even more noble, which is the literary goal of their existence.
Maybe, but given that they were trapped in undeath for thousands of years because they didn’t hold up their side of the oath, finding out what would happen if Aragorn didn’t hold up his end of the same oath seems like a bad idea.
“A story is not a machine that does what you tell it. A story is a beast with a life of its own. You can create it, shape it, but as the story grows, it starts wanting things of its own. Change one thing, and you set off a chain reaction of events that spreads through the whole thing. The characters have to be true to themselves. The events need to follow a logic that fits the story. A single flaw and the magic is gone. The story dies. - Alan Wake” - Sam Lake
Established rules and constraints must be consistent throughout the story, otherwise nerds on the internet with nothing better to do will call you a hack. See: the new Star Wars. Force healing, my ass.
dreadbeefCinema, not literature. In the books the undead army is way less OP than in the movie adaptation. Their only weapon is fear, and they do not liberate minas tirith, but only scare the mercenaries off their black sail ships. Aragon uses the boats to quick travel to minas tirith with his elf and half elven friends and fresh troops from the south.
What about the limitless coffers of Rome?
prototactYe I don’t blame Jackson for chainging it, there was less time to explain in the movie and the payoff was bigger. What works in books does not always work in films and vice versa
UnderpantsWeevilI think there’s a whole webcomic DM of the Rings that makes fun of this idea at great length.
They’re a limited-use item - once they do enough to fulfill their oath, they won’t keep fighting. Also, in the books it wasn’t clear that they could actually cause physical harm.
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Counter-countermeasure - Aragorn deploys Huey Lewis’s copyright lawyers.
Kenny2999Well, it’s not like the enemy army has one if the two most ancient and most powerful magicians on their side. They’ll figure something out.
Two actually. Sauron and Sarumon are the same class of being. Balrogs are too, but iirc they’re more on Morgoth’s side
Saruman was dead by this time though
Not really, at least in the books; the movies cut out quite a bit of what was happening after the One Ring was destroyed
In the movies extended version you can see saruman clearly dying after the ENT counter-attack. So in the movies, only sauron is left at this point.
Programmer Belch10 necromancers turning them against each other
carrylexAiyoyoyu
Can cause physical harm
The irony is that they can’t, but their greatest weapon is that the people they fight think they can, and flee without even trying. And this post is making the exact same mistake, while also assuming they’re invincible. The answer to the post is the post. That or pointing to the post and laughing.
Book version. In the movie version they absolutely can cause physical harm. A ghost sword and Aragorn’s even stop each other, iirc.
I’ve never been a huge LotR fan so I don’t necessarily remember any details, but isn’t that because the sword had special qualities (being the sword of the ghosts’ king IIRC) rather than because the ghosts can interact with physical objects?
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