This makes me feel crazy. Being aware of the speed limit is like step 1 for driving! "Stealing is illegal, sure, but how are people supposed to know which stores they can steal from without getting caught if the stores with anti-stealing cameras don't have giant 'NO STEALING' signs outside??"

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20-plus-mayors-urge-doug-ford-to-compromise-on-speed-camera-ban/article_1b50e9eb-36b7-4e34-b0af-175dcb1664b2.html

Like, either accept that speed limits don't influence operating speeds and design roads so that natural operating speeds are safe, or be consistent with believing the law means something!
Olivia Chow is a smart politician who knows how to say things in the right way to work with obtuse people like the Ford government, so I don't fault her for angling for compromise. It's just, so weird to be having this fight at all.

@mbonsma

My problem with the Premier's argument (it's a tax grab) is that it is the offenders who pay for it. Now, ALL taxpayers have to pay for speed bumps and other stuff.

The cost of a few accidents in a city or town on paramedics, hospitals, police, road restoration, etc. far outweighs the 'cash grab'

And if he wants to slow traffic why doesn't he just put in bike lanes 🤣😂

@mbonsma how about a foghorn sounding when the picture is taken?
@quoidian neighbours would complain when the foghorn is literally never not sounding

@mbonsma yes — tbh I’ve always felt like speed camera signs in themselves are missing the point. Like, why warn someone that if they keep speeding they’ll get caught? Just seems to incentivise speeding up to the point where there’s a camera, slowing down temporarily, and then speeding back up.

(Not counting situations where there might be the genuine possibility of accidentally going faster than the limit, like down a steep hill. A reminder to take additional care seems fine.)

@mbonsma Explain it to me like I was a 56-year-old: if I get a speeding fine, I have no speed limit for a week?