@hardingar @anduril @straphanger the urbanists and transportation nerds know this but cities go broke trying to fund expensive road infrastructure upgrades which wouldn't be necessary if there were fewer cars and more dense zoning, paving/repairing subdivision streets is expensive just to serve a handful of houses and upgrades to highways, interchanges and overpasses are not cheap, they cost hundreds of millions to billions of dollars, but so many people can't seem to imagine what a system looks like that isn't centered around private cars shuttling around private enclaves.