Mastodawn

This think of the children phase the government has got going in is just making everything more shit… Don’t ruin everything just because some people can’t control themselves.

NKBTN Oct 1, 2025

10% of the NHS’s budget goes towards treating diabetes. That’s a huge amount of money. It’s not just a problem for sufferers - its everyone elses problem too.

In my view*, government has two main jobs: promoting our happiness, and curbing our excesses. This is firmly within those remits, albeit trading short term for long term happiness.

You probably wouldn’t say firearms/crack cocaine/embezzling shouldn’t be illegal just because some people can’t control themselves, I hope? This is much like that - it just seems harmless because you’re used to it being there.

People can still buy crisps and pizza. They just won’t get a discount on over-indulging anymore

*actually, Bertrand Russell’s view.

It’s cute you think this will tackle obesity and diabetes. People will eat the same amount it’ll just cost everybody more money. Smoking/drinking related illness probably costs the NHS more why not just put more restrictions on that too while they’re at it.

Habits can change. And if not with this generation, then with next. I support this change.

Funny you say that because there’s been a huge increase in kids SMOKING vapes. These “restrictions” haven’t actually done anything to curb that behaviour. Why hasn’t imposing restrictions improved the situation here? Vapes have been available from around 2013 and I imagine are included in most legislation relating to tobacco products. Maybe education and proper parenting are the answer not just blanket banning BOGOF offers. This would be a greater public service than stopping reasonably healthy people from saving a few quid bulk buying treats for themselves.

Kids are smoking vapes because they don’t have the same restrictions as tobacco. Thanks for proving my point again.

Please elaborate

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/507/contents

Here you go:

These are the tobacco regulations. Have a read and think if any of them apply to vapes (spoiler alert, they don’t).

We also know for a fact that the tobacco sales dropped dramatically over the last decade as more restrictive regulations were introduced.

bath.ac.uk/…/cigarette-sales-declining-by-20-mill…

Coincidence? I think not.

The Tobacco and Related Products Regulations 2016

These Regulations implement Directive 2014/40/EU of the European Parliament and the Council on the approximation of the laws, regulations and administrative provisions of the Member States concerning the manufacture, presentation and sale of tobacco and related products (“the Tobacco Products Directive”), other than articles 6, 13 to 16, one element of article 9.3, and certain aspects of article 20.5. Articles 13, 14 and the element of article 9.3 are implemented by S.I 2015/829; certain aspects of article 20.5 are implemented by statutory code.

Bassman27

There’s literally a whole section on electronic cigarettes (part 6 since I’m assuming you didn’t read it). So it looks like there is regulation and it hasn’t worked as the kids are hooked on vapes. Many of these regulations also apply to vapes for example the health warnings on every package.

Regulations for vapes is also becoming more aligned with cigarettes over time. So from 2013 when they were introduced the increased regulation from the alignment with regulation on tobacco products hasn’t worked.

Further steps may curb this but from the data that is published on the number of those under 18 vaping I highly doubt it.

But thanks for elaborating :)