limerLiberals are catalysts to catastrophe, again
Bla bla liberals bad amirite?
šµšøantifa_ceoItās telling you got offended by this truth lmao
Iām not offended. The article is just same old bashing with no substance :D liberals are bad, more news at 9.
They are bad because I say so. I think they believe this, and that and that also means they be bad.
Its all just useless garbage. Could be replaced with AI slop. Might already be slop.
So, you did not read it
Oh, I did :D maybe you did not?
I did twice, letās discuss it. Can you pick a paragraph that particularly upsets you and explain why itās wrong ?
I read it again just for the sake of discussion. Again, I am not upset. :D There is just not a lot to talk about.
Only takeaway I got from this is that liberals suck according to the author. Cool, I guess they do. Or at least the very wide and constantly changing group being referred as āliberalsā sucks.
Lack of specifics
In fact, liberals do not even substantially disagree with the core of Trumpās policies. After all, both right-wing and liberal elites are loyal servants of empire, the latter just give it a veneer of humanitarianism.
This is low hanging fruit, you did not even try. I can imagine many arguments you could make how liberals fundamentally disagree with some policies.
But you would be hard pressed to refute the follow up paragraph
Both support policies that sustain the oppression of poor and marginalised people: the corporatisation of healthcare and education, labour exploitation, mass incarceration, militarised policing, censorship, corruption through corporate donations, and extractivism and militarism abroad. The liberals have put their spin on all these with talk about human rights, rule of law, and diversity.
And I think you literally have no valid counterpoints, for this op ed piece, as a whole. Or else you would have shattered me with your logic.
I accept your concession.
Who is this liberal group who does not disagree with trump? This grouping of people and ideologies is insane. Are people who agree with trump now also liberals? Is satan liberal?
The article makes no real points, so dunno what there is to counterpoint? This magical group of āliberalsā is evil and bad and fails at everything. The group changes paragraph to paragraph. Maybe they mean to say democrats? Or democrat votera? Or americans? Or the west? Or jews?
Or they have defined āliberalā to mean some evil western leadership who has meaningful power but chooses not to use it because they actually agree with the way shit is going down.
Maybe those liberals are evil. But itās a non-opinion. Evil people are evil!
I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper.
bufalo1973Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others.
I guess it comes down to semantics. I donāt view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from.
Cowbee [he/they]Liberalism is by definition right-wing, itās the ideological justification for capitalism.
Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people.
Read the article
I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not?
Youāre really going with āI know you are, but what am I!ā?
Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as āliberalsā in the US is really a narrow category of the DNCās policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism.
Is satan liberal?
Yes.
AmnesigenicQuit lying and go read the article dipshit
Why donāt you read it before name calling
Quit lying and go read the article dipshit
Whatās with the name calling? Rude.
Maybe you got some insights on the article since you think I did not read it when in fact Iāve read it multiple fucking times and the contents just wonāt change :D
My insight into rhe article is itās 100% accurate, youāve had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and youāre playing dumb because you donāt have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it
What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing Iāve gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word āliberalā.
I truly think itās you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. Thatās why you resort to insulting me.
Lol goddamn youāre dumb
No u :D
You donāt have a point dumbass
My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, probing my point.
Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit
You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think Iām crying :D
Iām right
You keep thinking that :D I hope you are having as much fun as I am. Run out of insults?
Try harder halfwit
Creative. No u
Lol. Corncob
Thanks, you too
So you didnāt read the article
Weird way to admit youāre illiterate if Iām being real. Thereās no way you come away with this opinion as it being insubstantial unless you 1) didnāt read it or 2) did read it but was unable or unwilling to comprehend it.
Wow, rude
If the shoe fitsā¦
Cry about it
Donāt play stupid
Try harder
Having the last word isnāt worth much when everything you say is embarassingly stupid
Thanks, same to you, brother
Cute.
I know
This place is very compassionate for people with US reading comprehension. There's no shame in admitting "I don't understand," but there is in, "therefore it's wrong."
Compassion is not a word I would use for most interactions here. :D People are very stuck in their own interpretations of certain words, and not a single person has been able to point out what they think is good or accurate about the article. āLol you cannot read retardā is the most common answer.
I got that many people have a different understand of the word āliberalā. The article also seems to group a bunch of people under that umbrella and that makes little sense to me.
Itās not really that I donāt understand, I just disagree with the generalization that āall liberals badā. I do get that that does not fit thr general narrative in this social circle. But I tend to think that this kind of bashing articles are not really useful, and discussing with people who have different opinions is good to broaden oneās understanding of the world.
You came in arrogant and self assured. Insults are regrettable, and the interaction could have been better handled, and you might have bothered respectfully asking for resources, bothering to read and taking time to digest, and asking for clarity or rebuttals to your presumptions. Instead, when informed you are incorrect, you doubled, tripled and quadrupled down.
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