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Which movie was it for you? (where the actions of the bad guys were actually relatable?)
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Show threadSciaphobiaSep 28, 2025

Not a movie, but Warcraft 3 tried hard to convince you that Arthas was doing wrong things, when most of the things were pragmatic decisions.

The big one your supposed to think is the fork in the road where he, a paladin pledged to the light, had lost his way is when you discover a city you are trying to save from the undead is infected. Everyone in the city is dead, they just don’t know it yet. And when they die they will turn into more undead for an already stretched thin army to fight against. An entire city worth of fresh dead for the undead legion.

So Arthas takes his army, burns the city, and purges/kills everyone within, so that they do not suffer undeath, and those yet living don’t have another horde of dead to struggle fighting against. The people there don’t know why they are being killed, but are we supposed to believe that if Arthas had time to explain they’d want to become undead?

Whole thing was him doing the objectively correct thing, getting rightfully angry when his subordinates lack the conviction/loyalty/discipline to do what was best for all living people in the realm. And we’re supposed to think HE is the one who is wrong.

Nah. Miss me with that. Arthas did nothing wrong. Until later, when he did. But not when he burned that city.

Show threadWorldsDumbestMan

It’s a moraly gray situation, but he is a Paladin. His duty is to uphold a certain standard, no matter what. He should have let the knights do the genociding.

Someone needs to be there for you, to guarantee your rights. You need to be able to say: “our hero is here! He will never hurt us!”.

Same reason the US army had a no one left behind policy. Less sodiers deserting, more fighting bravely, because they know their comrades would save them, even at a loss!

Sep 29, 2025 at 4:00pmWeb
Show threadSciaphobiaSep 29, 2025

You know, the paladin code of ideals that are supposed to be embodied by those sworn to the light IS antithetical to the stewards of the paladin principles. I had not considered that.

So perhaps one could say that the cold pragmatism of his choice would not have been wrong for an ordinary general to make, but was against his code, and betrayed a weakening or abandoning of his faith.

I still don’t think he was wrong broadly, but I think I agree with you that he was wrong with regards to being a paladin and a representative of what they are supposed to stand for.