@pojntfx I think Google has since fixed the cleartext-in-the-DC issue but that alone doesn't earn them trust.

I'm old enough to remember when even the front-end of webmail services was cleartext.

@stuartl @pojntfx I’m old enough to remember when TCI/IP was invented, and anyone smartcenougb to have deployed it could be trusted by default. And you tell these young folk nowadays, etc., etc. (stumbles off, mumbling and stroking into beard).

I miss those days. The UK Internet Consortium was influential (even though nobody even remembers it). It achieved its goal, and the UK uses the same (more efficient) standards as the rest of the world.

@stuartl @pojntfx well yes, but thanks to the old guard who actually made this shit work, users don’t really need to understand the details anymore. I have only skimmed the surface myself!

I taught TCPIP classes for approximately 20 years, and throughout that period, the uptake of IPv6 was consistently felt by the industry to be “10 years away“. 🤣

@holdenweb @pojntfx It's been reduced to magic numbers at this point.

"Look, put 255.255.255.0 in that field there and the other one must start with 192.168… don't worry about the rest!"

(ugh!)

Not much use for knowledge of things like 802.1Q in "the cloud".