hisaoCriticising cancel culture from both sides of political spectrum is bigotry and harassment?
“They” don’t like it when you call them out on their game. You need to be cancelled for that.
gb2pol
Rule 2 also calls on civility, which I think is important here, because your comment (in context) comes off as a troll looking to start something.
I probably would have removed it too, but would have explained why it was inappropriate (in several ways).
because your comment (in context) comes off as a troll looking to start something
Why though? Because of slightly humorous wording? And how context matters? Or do you mean that posting anything critical of the left (even if it is also critical of the right for the same reasons) to lemmy.world might be considered as a “troll looking to start something”?
Because of slightly humorous wording?
None of that came across humorous in the slightest
And how context matters?
A bunch of racists were mad about a game featuring Africans, and you immediately compare it to being mad about “sexy women”.
Or do you mean that posting anything critical of the left
Right wing talking points from the r/KIA days isn’t really being critical of “the left”
even if it is also critical of the right for the same reasons
Entirely different reason, racism
Yeah, your comment absolutely reads like a troll.
Entirely different reason, racism
I’m talking about my reasons, not their. For me it’s all about both sides trying to censor or cancel content I might potentially be interested in. If we’re being honest, for me sexual content censorship is more impactful, and for this game I join to criticize the right simply because of solidarity, but I don’t really want to play this particular game. Right wing shit doesn’t hit me personally at all because I’m white and cisgender. Left wing shit hits me heavily all the time. But I still speak against both. If I was 100% egoist I would only speak against left wing stuff because it’s what causes me personally any discomfort at all.
All of which marks no change in my opinion on your comment in context and its removal, regardless of my opinions on your personal take on things.
this is your brain on asmongold
I question your reading of that rule:
No bigotry or harassment, be civilNo bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate. We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.
It seemed civil enough.
It seemed civil enough.
It read like ragebait to me.
Further reading of OPs comments showcase a hatred of “the left”, including assigning “the left” to right wing religious groups.
It read like ragebait to me.
Maybe your trigger is sensitive: in objective, dispassionate terms, can you articulate or point out the incivility: the harassment, bigotry, abusive language, antipathy?
Further reading of OPs comments
I guess I don’t go reading through user histories looking to evaluate users. I evaluate the comment in front of me.
hatred of “the left”
Even the left “hates the left”: we’re a disagreeable bunch. Seems your judgement is based on bias. Unless you can define troll, I could imagine anything you object to qualifying: I partly left reddit to get away from such moderation lacking integrity.
It read like ragebait to me.
With zero reason to do so, they brought up a headline stance against “the left” in a thread about racists and a game about Africans.
Harassment, bigotry, and abusive language don’t come into play.
I guess I don’t go reading through user histories looking to evaluate users. I evaluate the comment in front of me.
I evaluate context. A well meaning user can often be misinterpreted. I generally don’t act on any community I mod without evaluating context for the comment as well. It could be poor phrasing due to English being a second language or a variety of other issues.
Context is always important.
Even the left “hates the left": we’re a disagreeable bunch. Seems your judgement is based on bias. Unless you can define troll, I could imagine anything you object to qualifying: I partly left reddit to get away from such moderation lacking integrity.
It seems youre trying to decide how I evaluate things for me, as well as then trying to paint me (not the mod in this case) as lacking integrity.
I’m not interested.
For the record, I would consider that sort of commentary in line with ragebait, as you have phrased things in a way to get a rise out of someone. Alone, not worthy of removal, but perhaps a comment to point out the antagonistic nature of your comment does not lend itself to constructive discussion.
With zero reason to do so, they brought up a headline stance against “the left” in a thread about racists and a game about Africans.
You say context matters and pretend I only expressed dislike of the left, ignoring the fact that I presented a stance against BOTH the right and left. And days before this thread I also did the same in YouTube comments of right winger videos trying to cancel the game in question. How there is zero reason to do so? Do you not see how most of those new right-leaning YouTubers, which otherwise are just normal gamers, come from the same background of being oppressed by woke cancel culture associated with the left which radicalizes them and pushes them to the right and makes them attack anything associated with the woke and left even simply out of spite? Pretty sure most of them are not racists at all, they simply want to hit the woke back as a vengeance.
I was replying to a specific part of that persons comment.
That said, your comments about “the left” elsewhere are also actually about the religious right.
oppressed by woke cancel culture associated with the left
Pretty sure most of them are not racists at all, they simply want to hit the woke back as a vengeance.
Dude.
You have a definition of “the left” (and, tbc, “the right") thats so far abstracted from reality that I don’t know where to begin. I wish I could be the person here who could help clarify things for you, but I’m not.
As I said, its my opinion that you deserved it in terms of the mod actions, and I gave my reasons. Many others shared the same opinion.
Maybe instead of lashing out at me you could consider why so many folks are disagreeing with your take, and start there.
Maybe this will be a good place to start.
Anti-porn legislation is a decidedly right wing thing. You can see this with the laws that effectively blocked pornhub. The one I linked to includes written erotica, and non-sexual representations of lgbtqia+.
Blocking porn (or erotica in general), is a very religious right action. Associating lgbtqia+ with porn is also very much right-wing.
I don’t know where youre getting the idea that religious groups are pushing left wing ideals and are therefore secretly left wing groups. Collective Shout, for example, is pretending to be a left wing group (describing themselves as “a grassroots movement against the objectification of women and sexualisation of girls in media, advertising and popular culture."), when in reality, they are tied to hard right christian groups and conservative think tanks. The opposite of what you’re suggesting.
You’ll often see these sort of right wing groups cover their religious based anti-porn stance by wrapping it in “Protecting the children”, which will then be used as an excuse to try and prevent everything from drag shows to erotic games like visual novels. This is not “woke”.
Now that isnt to say there aren’t leftists with an issue here as well. There are leftists who are anti-porn. Usually though, those will be against the porn industry, and will say all porn is exploitation in some form. They won’t associate gender identity or sexual identity with erotic content though, which is (usually) a good indicator of where a group or person is landing on a political spectrum. These folks are also not that common, more often you’d see the criticism limited to the porn industries where women are often taken advantage of, and the consent given is a bit more dubious.
You may also see it with leftists and specific genres of gaming, where there may be depictions of rape, especially if its shown without a narrative reason for it to exist or where its not considered wrong to have done so.
I hope you take this comment as an opportunity to understand where others are coming from, to evaluate where youre getting your information from, and maybe, just maybe, reevaluate your reactions to what others are saying.
Eugene V. Debs' GhostSo do you think the OP here, using ablesism, insulting everyone who disagrees with them, and being blatantly incorrect about things easily proven wrong, was being kind?
If that’s being nice and civil, then I hate to see what you consider rude.
JonsJavasame cancel culture energy as the woke crowd jumping on games with sexy beautiful women
Yeah, that’s not a thing.
Collective Shout and similar were a thing for a long time, and they all are hiding behind left wing agenda and largely supported by left. And it already ruined Steam, Itch and Patreon. Some authors I was subscribed to, got they pages banned altogether from Patreon and other platforms.
Collective Shout and similar were a thing for a long time, and they all are hiding behind left wing agenda and largely supported by left.
Fucking what? You think the left is behind the puritanical Christians who lobbied to remove porn games from Steam?
Are you fucking for real right now? You are severely misinformed.
Edit: I’m actually kind of at a loss… I can’t even imagine how someone could come to this conclusion, but I’d love to find out.
As I already said in my previous post, it’s clear that they hide behind left wing agenda: they’re trying to look feminist and a lot of left buy that. They are also a good representation of a huge crowd of wokies calling everything sexual “goonerbait”, every anime girl a “loli” and so on.
Harvey656Are you twitter brained? How the hell did you come to this conclusion and still have enough brain power to type?
You are on the lefty social media right now, there isn’t very many of those people here, they get dog piled on for their stupidity, just like you.
So you at least admit they exist. The general crowd you meet on the internet represents a more objective big picture than just your narrow community of “the good ones”.
… Your example is someone pointing out its fucked up to want a community dedicated to getting off to a 14yr old anime character?
What the absolute fuck
Dude thats a 2d picture, no humans were harmed in that image. This gotcha you seem to have is kinda pathetic.
Well they can’t separate the fiction they invented in their head from reality, makes sense they can’t separate other fiction from reality.
That’s what im saying. The first time i saw this sort of behavior was on Twitter, and for whatever reason, its left the xhitty platform and made its way to our corner of the internet.
It is a constant everywhere, not just Xitter. Tumblr, reddit, any place where you can share art.
One time on reddit someone got mad at the official art of a character who was 17 who was dressed modestly and not at all revealing, the most skin was her arms, ankles, and face, but because the character was 17, someone wanted to check the creators hard drive.
If you make a character below the age of 18, you’re now evil to some people.
Yikes, people are nuts about this stuff. I personally think it’s self reporting, or closet pedos fighting their inner demons by attacking innocents, but I have no basis for that outside my gut feeling.
Projection from pedopholes is nothing new. Just look at the GOP, Catholic Church, and transphobes.
Still, I wonder why. A lingering sense of guilt? The fear of being found out? Stupidity?
Gulit and shame, no one would suspect the person who is vigilant of the crime to be doing it.
It is a constant everywhere
Yes, and it is strongly associated and derived from woke and this is exactly why so many people are leaning to right now. And you all fail to admit it and even feel the strong need to censor our the whole idea when it’s being told because it’s “a hardline stance”, “not civil”, “looks like trolling” or whatever else bullshit reason.
OH GOD. NOT A 2D DRAWING! THE HORROR! THE SIN AND VICE!
There is some truth to this (as in puritanical people try to appeal to either sides through different tactics) but gooning and loli is not really something that can be put onto the political spectrum.
The boards i am on are really split and while i don’t get how they can be right wing nuts they do exist.
Jessie what the fuck are you talking about.
Some people miss this GTA-inspired meme series?
I wrote a blogpost about why I hate video games comp
YDI. You’re not actually criticising from “both sides.” You’re attacking “woke” while praising some shitty gamers.
You’re criticizing from the right because you’re a reactionary right-winger (aka “”“libertarian”“”). Reasonable people don’t want to hear any more of that trash. It’s already shoved down our throats from the capitalist media.
YDI. Be normal.
rustyfish
Unruffled [they/them]After reading all your comments here, YDM.
After reading all your comments here, you don’t deserve my time or attention, neither the
lemmy.world nor the self-proclaimed joke of “anarchists” you have there at your dbzer0.
Fuck libertarians.
Original libertarians are closer to true anarchists than this shitshow hivemind you got there.
Anarchism is not when the rich tell you what to do because you signed a contact that waves your rights.