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The Amphora of Great Intelligence (AGI) Part 2

@davidrevoy Yeah I mean obviously re-use and forbidding the construction of non-durable products would be better than recycling which is wasteful in energy and in materials. Recycling is the propaganda used as diversion to keep producing more trash "it's not a problem because RECYCLING".

No recycling is 100% and most recycling is about producing sub-par material not-that-useful stuff which the society would pay... When it's the producer who should pay for the trash they produce.

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Jon [🇺🇦,🏳️‍🌈]Sep 24

@otyugh @davidrevoy Yes, but not all forms of recycling are bad. Plastic for sure is bad. Recycling glass, solar panels, metal, etc is good.

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オチュー🕊🇵🇸Sep 24

@jon_giraffe @davidrevoy It's very energy intensive. Like glass (I'm working with recently), most company in france recycle their bottles when even small farms I'm working in are managing to just wash them (pretty far away because there isn't any local company offering it : but it exists, and it lmakes WAY MORE sense. Bottle should be used hundreds of time before being melt again it's kinda outrageous what we do because energy is cheap enough to remake them AT EVERY SINGLE USE).

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Badtux the Snarky Penguin Sep 25

@otyugh @jon_giraffe @davidrevoy When I was very young in the late 1960s our elementary school class took a field trip to the local Coca Cola bottling company. There we saw the glass bottles come in and be placed upside down on a conveyer belt that had little sticks with nozzles on them, they then went through a dishwasher then the nozzles cleaned the interiors. They were then flipped, filled, and capped. Far different from today's disposable bottles that didn't exist then.

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オチュー🕊🇵🇸

@badtux @jon_giraffe @davidrevoy I think recycling was mostly lost in the mainstream because glass get marked with time (especially passing through conveyors) that makes the packaging "not perfectly pristine". You can see that on a few rare consigned brands.

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Badtux the Snarky Penguin Sep 25

@otyugh @jon_giraffe @davidrevoy The glass Coke bottles became somewhat frosted over time. After being reused many times to the point where they were essentially opaque they were sent to the glass company to melt down and used to manufacture new bottles. All gone now of course replaced with single use plastic bottles or aluminum cans.