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> "There is no #MINASWAN. It was a lie."
I've been telling this for years, but people doesn't listen:
https://ruby.social/@esparta/114589343928708447
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https://ruby.social/@esparta/114589383421300519
usually when I said #MINASWAN point was wrong I either being ignored, or they says I'm just jealous and mad at people who "got lucky" - are privileged.
@[email protected] > #minaswan don't get me wrong, but since I joined the #ruby community, 10 years ago, that was the first criticism I've had: > Matz is nice and so we are nice Sorry, but no, that's not how it works. If Matz is nice, that's good, but people are not nice by association, #minaswan would be just happenstance. People like you, Aaron Summer, had a long, slow, constant, solid journey towards being a good person, it's independent of what Matz did, and has their own merits.
@vito it's not about what I understood but what I actually experienced, focus in this:
https://ruby.social/@esparta/114589383421300519
people who literally said #minaswan and minutes later being racist **with** me, in my face in situations where they hold the power. That happened more than once - less than 10 if that matters.
> like in "he is nice, and by extension so are we", but some sort of reminder to be great to/with each other.
right now it feels like you are not doing it, more like gaslighting me.
@[email protected] continuing about #minaswan back in the 2010s a lot of people were piggybacking on #minaswan with literally: "See, Matz is nice, that means I'm nice" which once I (almost) reply: > No sir, you are still a racist who happen to work with #ruby for a living, earning a lot of money because of that, and contributing almost nothing but a praise and "exposure" to the language. How being (somehow) associated with Matz made you a nice person? ** true story.
@esparta I apologise, I see what you mean now, and I really appreciate you sharing your experience.
I wasn’t trying to dismiss that at all. My earlier comment was just about how I used to think of MINASWAN, but your point about people using it as a cover for harmful behavior is really important, and I hear you on that.
I'm sorry you had to go through that, and it's absolutely unacceptable. Once is unacceptable, "less than 10" is even worse.
@vito apologies accepted.
I got what you mean, and I don't think you are being mean at all, I just want to point out that people need to listen and pay attention what has been said, usually we are self-centered and it's easy to loose your interlocutor's point.
Vito Sartori (ヴィト) 🦊
Esparta 