Do the #Democrats suck?
Yes
The Democrats are also #Mamdani and #AOC
Do you view the Dems as an omnipotent alien monolith?
Why? They are an empty vessel. Fill them with your will. 50 AOCs. 50 Mamdanis
Do the centrists disgust you?
Good
Mob the #primaries. Vote them out
No?
You'd rather just feel disgust and disengage?
What does that achieve?
Are your feelings more important than our reality?
Fucking #VOTE goddamn it
How many fought and died- for your indolence and ineffectuality?
assuming of course, that the situation we're in is full blown fascism. oh yes, we're well on our way. but we're not there yet. assuming we're already there is a form of premature capitulation
ah the "it can't get worse" fallacy
perhaps combined with "i can't do it anything about it" fallacy?
that's the usual ineffectuality of the left
i'm not accusing you of that. but please note the road these kind of thoughts go down
@benroyce Oh I don’t think it can get worse. I think we are in a fascist nation. It’s doing fascist things already. There’s nothing to wait for and no future where we need to anticipate things getting worse.
November is not the time to take action. The time is right now. Voting is simply trying to pick a messiah to save you, to spare you from putting your body on the line. Nobody is coming to save us… and if they did they wouldn’t be wearing a suit.
You don't think it can get worse? Do you have awareness of other countries and history?
It can get much worse
What I don't understand is how damn hard you argue against voting. You're in a struggle and you use various tactics. Voting is just one almost zero effort tactic. So you use it. Done. No big deal
So do you argue against it because you're strategically and tactically inept? Or because you're actively trying to help fascism and lying maliciously about your intent?
If you think I'm being unfair:
We both agree we need to fight
So we fight
We use many tactics
Right?
And I'm like "voting takes little effort and can gum up the works if enough do it"
And you're like "nah, I like making the fight even harder and ensuring I have less chance of succeeding"
That's my entire problem with the rationale you speak here
so you're like the people who say they are going to move to a cabin in the woods
ok
alienation. giving up. then they come find you anyways because you stopped fighting for the structrure of your society and now they own it
or you're ready to commit violence
which means you wind up as a newsblurb and no one knows what you're about then you're forgotten
just fucking vote
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES
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