DHS should not have fucked around with Nintendo

https://lemmy.world/post/36361617

If Nintendo sued them, I’d actually be willing to buy a Switch2, just on principle.
Hell I would actually buy one from the official Nintendo shop on MercadoLibre and not from a reseller LOL
I’ve never purchased a new Nintendo product, if they sued DHS I’d definitely pick up a Switch 2!
.gov sites have lost the sense of taste
Hell, they’ve lost all sense of legitimacy and respect. Turned into your grandfather’s thinly veiled racist social media posts.
My grandfather was a very based antifascist and would never post this type of shit (he also wasn’t particularly great with modern tech, he had an old Nokia phone, so posting it would be quite a challenge). I miss him a lot.

My grandpa taught me racist terms in front of my mom, for fun. Because “that’s what they were called when he was a kid.”

Other than that, he was pretty hands off as a grandparent.

I don't think we can blame COVID for this. /j
Oh I would be so happy if they manage to piss off Disney and Nintendo in the same week
Nintendo has a chance to be the best, like no one ever was…
Lol I can’t believe this is real
I can. This administration is run by children.
While it would be funny. Nintendo won’t do it. They wanna be on friendly terms with orange boy so govco keeps helping them slap down ROM sites and prosecuting emulation enjoyers.
True, but it’s fun to joke about. I’d even go as far as to say foreign corporations have less of a moral obligation to stick it to this fascist regime than American companies do. Getting our shit together is our responsibility.
This type of content by the DHS could literally damage Nintendo’s brand, and all of us are painfully aware at how strongly Nintendo protects their brand. I’m fairly sure they WOULD throw the weight of all their lawyers against the administration for even daring to associate human rights violations with them.
The trick is to reply to posts about it saying something like “I can’t believe Nintendo are supporting the actions of ICE. I refuse to let my kids anywhere near Nintendo products!
Alternatively: "Using Nintendo music is fine. They didn’t go against ICE over it, so they obviously don’t care about it"

Exactly this. If I recall, there’s a principle in at least some IP* law suggesting that each time you don’t defend your absolute ownership of the IP, you are making it easier for others legally get away with infringing in future.

I know just enough to imagine this could wildly differ between patent, trademark, copyright, and whatever other realms there are in IP.

*Intellectual Property, for anyone unfamiliar with or not quite placing the acronym.

Ragebaiting Nintendo into suing the Trump administration is such an absurd situation and I’m even MORE flabbergasted at the fact it could actually work.

The trick is for it to obviously cost them more to not act.

Good luck with that, hasn’t worked so far.

Not that you shouldn’t boycott the shit out of Nintendo if you want to, just don’t hold your breath while waiting for them to do something that isn’t profit motivated.

Duh, just get enough people on Twitter to say they’ll cancel their Nintendo Online subscriptions and sell their Switches if they refuse to act and they’ll do it in a dime.

I’d say good luck getting sintendo fans to do this, but I’m a delusional optimist.

On one hand, I hope it works and on the other I wouldn’t be surprised if the biggest bootlickers would go around mass reporting and doxxing anybody who does this.

Sintendo. That couldn’t be a typo. I like that.

Similarly, I have zero hope Big N nintendogs would ever do it too. They’re okay with N just destroying competition while they keep producing slop with Pokémon. They have a whole nation that still supports them even if the rest of the world boycotts N.

Also, people literally forced Disney’s hand by cancelling all of their subscriptions. Bullying corporations is extremely easy now that we have access to their social media.

They did, but the difference there is that disney already took a position and realised they’d fucked up directly (fiscally, disney absolutely does not give a fuck about morality or ethics ) and then had to backtrack.

Nintendo haven’t (actively) taken a position yet, if they do then they’d have to face the backlash of whichever way that went in the court of public opinion.

by not taking a position they only get the backlash from the passive “support” of a position.

That is a rare case. If people actually cared and kept their word most non-maga owned news outlets would be out of business. Yet, people still watch, read and subscribe to those outlets despite them constantly posting about how crappy those orgs are. People are creatures of comfort. I imagine most that cancelled their subscriptions turned them right back on once they heard Kimmel was no longer suspended. Most major retailers and companies that dropped their DEI policies saw little to no loss.

Companies respond to big money, if enough people turned away from those companies they’d behave very differently

I wonder if there is a legit way to get some betting company to cover this, because i’d lay good money on Nintendo taking the shittiest route possible (well, the second in this case, the shittiest would be to actively endorse it ).

Because money.

They aren’t quite as bad as Disney so far, but I suspect that’s only becayse they haven’t been given the chance yet.

Yeah its the Nazi game but the fans still buy it.

You can’t win a lawsuit against a dictator.

They’re far more likely to send a random Japanese employee to be introduced to Trump as Mr. Nintendo, present Trump with a Pikachu figurine that’s been spray painted gold, tell Trump that Pokeman references make his stormtroopers look childish, and offer a bribe.

They are only human rights violations when the bad countries do them.

It could, but fighting over it definitely will.

Even without any reprisal from the administration; the hypothetical lawsuit would be a very public affair. Nintendo would be inserting itself directly into the fight over US immigration law; and approximately no one in the US would see it as them defending their trademark rights. The anti-imigrant crowd would see it as a direct attack on Trump’s deportation efforts. The anti masked-officer-shoving-people-into-an-unmarked-van-and-sending-them-to-a-venezualan-contrantion-camp would also see it that way.

In contrast, if they do nothing, no one is going to look at that tweet and think that Nintendo was actually involved or approved of it.

Nintendo aren’t your friends.
It doesn’t matter, Nintendo cares about their brand more than their own lives and if enough people said “I can’t believe Nintendo is supporting human rights violations!” they would bury ICE under a lawsuit. We’re talking about Nintendo here, the company who makes most of its money from literally suing people.
I’ll take, “Things That Will Never Happen” for $500 Alex.

the company who literally makes most of its money from suing people

(X) doubt

I’m outraged that Nintendo has a contract with ICE to produce pokeballs for catching suspected illegal immigrants.
Nintendo only targets weak prey, like customers, fans, and smaller competitors. I would be shocked if they even issued a statement, let alone action.
The government is literally, and in an official capacity, posting edgy alt right teen discord videos. If I were 15 and a piece of shit again, I’d find this funny.
If you went back two decades and told them the US government would be posting edgy videos and memes on their official Twitter accounts, they’d think you grew a third head.
Bush might take a few seconds to wonder whether he set a course that would lead to the fall of democracy, but would otherwise be unfazed
Bush is too senile (and evil) to give a shit.

Man, some people really always have a rosy propaganda filled picture of US history. Twitter didn’t exists 2 decades ago but they were still propagandizing cringe through TV and news media.

Do you think uncle sam was less cringeworthy?

Yankistanis will always have their head up theirs. SAD

Twitter didn’t exists 2 decades ago but they were still propagandizing cringe through TV and news media.

20 years, 17 years, there’s not that much difference.

A decade ago would have been the first Trump Presidency.

They have the ability but they won’t because they spent the past 6 months bootlicking the current government over Trump’s insane tariff nuke policies, just like every other company has.

Kia literally just got raided by ICE and they announced they were continuing to invest in the US not even a week later.

Most they’d be willing to do would be to ask Japan’s ambassador to ask DHS to remove the video, which the ambassador himself may even refuse to do under fear of retaliation or breakdown in ongoing negotiations.

Nintendo will sacrifice its brand image all day if it means staying in the US market and not becoming the target of Trump’s next company assassination in some convoluted political stunt.

The trick would try to make it more expensive for Nintendo to not act than otherwise. People on Twitter are already trying to ragebait Nintendo by claiming they’ll cancel their Nintendo Online subscriptions and sell their Switches if they don’t do anything.
The video in question for those who haven’t seen it yet: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VI5tZoBZ0s
Homeland Security share Pokemon-inspired video of ICE raids

YouTube
Oh wow that’s the whole song, egregious.
Trump prob wants to take over FED bcs getting sued by Nintendo whilst not in possession of a money-printer is not recommended.
How to cause hyperinflation 101:

Nintendo getting 100 trillion & then raising the price of decades old games :D.

Unless that slogan is trademarked (and even then)… dunno… ask Legal Eagle.
The animation video clips sure are copyrighted. Ask Ketchum is Nintendo’s intellectual property. I’ve been in fangame spaces for years. The motto is - when the articles come out; the uploads go down.
Will the US courts side with the US government on the fair use of it?

In what way is this fair use, though?

Regardless of the other criteria of fair use (which the DHS likely doesn’t meet), see factor 4:

the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

This is immensely harming Nintendo et. al’s IP.

“It’s fair use because I think it’s fair that I get to use it.”

- Trump administration

Courts rule based on what benefits them not based on precedence.
Gotcha, thanks for responding.
Nintendo should do to Kristi Noem what they (ALLEGEDLY) did to Gunpei Yokoi.