KLI had a lot of thoughts about where Jef Raskin fits in computer history and why his vision was too protective to truly be humane: https://systemstack.dev/2025/09/humane-computing/
Devine Lu Linvega@frownland "The catch was cultural, not technical." Only halfway into reading your fantastic piece, but this quote gave me a shiver.
@neauoire I just can't get over how much of "humane" ends up being implemented as "protect users from themselves" once it turns into a product rather than a prototype. That was the main thought I was trying to unwrap in my head by writing the piece, really.
@frownland you convey that point really well, enjoyed the piece a lot. Wasn't expecting to see Uxn on there(the text editor I've used for the past 5 years doesn't have Undo!! it does have LEAP keys tho)
@neauoire Imagine something like a Cat but running Uxn and only Uxn as its environment, and then compare that to the actual Cat where you have to know the magic incantation to get under the hood... one is considerably much more open-ended, extensible, and thus useful long-term than the other. To me Uxn is a great example, especially as it becomes more of an ecosystem.
daj@frownland @neauoire Long term though the incantation becomes common knowledge. Doom had IDKFA and IDDQD. The android click five times thing to unlock developer mode. The question is more why "hermeticism" is the default approach when we could be more welcoming to inquiring users
"To minimize suffering and to maximize security were natural and proper ends of society and Caesar. But then they became the only ends, somehow, and the only basis of law — a perversion. Inevitably, then, in seeking only them, we found only their opposites: maximum suffering and minimum security."
- Walter M. Miller Jr.