fossilesqueproof of wormholes
RaoulDuke85And also swims in crap.
ssillyssadassYou think these guys care about logic?
OP post is faulty logic, though.
As others had commented cancer existed before cigarettes.
That’s why it’s a good meme.
On one hand, if you fall for faulty logic, it seems legit. On the other, it highlights how easy it is to construct faulty reasoning
BombOmOmNo, it just makes you look dumb for refuting a false statement with another bad argument.
Paracetamol was first made in the 1800’s though.
Or are they just blaming a certain brand?
It’s a brand thing, obviously.
It’s always about money.
Wonder what the announcement will be? Wonder which drug they’ll push and which of Trumps cronies will own the pharma company
SanctusDr Oz as another poster said on another post.
Direct from Wikipedia
Paracetamol was first made in 1878 by Harmon Northrop Morse or possibly in 1852 by Charles Frédéric Gerhardt.
The left has misinformation too. Science is on our side; there’s no reason to propagate this shit.
The argument would be that autism is on the rise, not that it’s a new thing. I’m assuming this crowd understands the “rise” is from finer-tuned diagnoses. Hell, there may be another factor, but money says it ain’t Tylenol.
LillyPipLiterally no Americans know what paracetamol is. Randomly ask anyone.
Americans know brand names: Tylenol, Advil, Prilosec, Ambien.
I’ll bet you could survey Americans and 999/100 have never even have heard the word paracetamol. Or zolpidem. Most won’t have heard anything but the brand names, and the brand names have been drilled into their heads by way of constant advertising.
US brands have spend stupid amounts of money making sure people think of their propriety name instead of the real name of any drug.
Nobody would’ve heard paracetamol, but you’d probably get some hits with acetaminophen. Not a lot, to be clear, but some.
TrickDacyI know several Americans who know what paracetamol is. Not sure it’s as rare as you think.
RivalarrivalAmericans know “paracetamol” about as well as you apparently know “acetaminophen”.
They are the same compound.
“Paracetamol” is the generic term used in Europe and Australia. “Acetaminophen” is the generic term commonly used in the Americas.
Americans barely know ‘acetaminophen’ , too. Some, sure. Most know Tylenol.
mercBoth are slightly less clunky words created from the corpse of “N-acetyl-para-aminophenol”
“Acetaminophen” takes the “acet” from “acetyl” and “aminophen” from “aminophenol”.
“Paracetamol” takes the “para” part, and then a few other random letters that don’t really make sence. “cet” from “acetyl”, and maybe “am” from the start of “amphenol” with the “ol” ending from the same word, ignoring that it ends in “nol”?
Paracetamol" takes the “para” part, and then a few other random letters that don’t really make sence.
Because it actually comes from a different chemical name for the same compound: para-acetylaminophenol
Whichever version you use, it doesn’t really make sense. The para part, sure. But “cetamol”? I guess you can can smush two of the words together and go from “para-acet” to “paracet”. But, the “amol” ending? It seems to be borrowing the “am” from amino, and the “ol” from the end. But, that’s a weird set of letters to borrow, and weird to not borrow the full “amin” from amino and not borrow the full “enol” from phenol.
RebekahWSDI know almost all my meds by the generic names because I’m broke and that’s what the pharmacy will give me. Ibuprofen, levothyroxine, etc. Alprazolam.
I most certainly do because I’ve traveled a shit ton
I’m not ‘lumping all Americans’.
I’ve lived here for decades. I’m quite solidly informed.
… or worms.
That settles it, then. Obviously, autism was caused by time travel.
I fucked up some orgo im sorry
Every where I look there are orgies, now in time and space parties
Til autism was once understood as being the same as schizophrenia.
Quite interesting how the concept of neurodivergence is almost doing the opposite with respect to individuals who overlap on multiple neurological labels. Except it celebrates the individual uniqueness of their mind, needs, strenghts and challenges rather then generalising to find the one pill to sell to all.
Mitch Effendi (ميتش أفندي)I am autistic and I can understand it. When stressed, autistic people can exhibit disordered thinking or just naturally pick up on relationships and patterns that neurotypical people do not. We can also have the appearance of unpredictable volatility when facing things like burnout or abuse.
Especially in an era where mental health treatment was really just sending you you to a prison.
Eh, I wouldn’t immediately believe that. OP is playing fast and loose with their facts in this post. The first diagnosis of autism wasn’t until 1943, so how did they differentiate it from schizophrenia in 1911?
Did a little digging and apparently the name was coined in 1910-1911 as a symptom of schizophrenia.
Tylenol is a brand. Acetominophen was created in 1878 (or 1852, depending on who you ask).
Over half of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or lower and our President speaks at a 4th-grade level. How many you suppose know Tylenol and acetaminophen are the same thing?
Just wait till they hear what big pharma is doing with paracetamol
robocallI could totally see acetaminophen makers rebranding with a “new” paracetamol
lol my guess is like 70% of people in the us don’t know what acetaminophen or paracetamol are, so Tylenol could just come out with Lonelyt Extra Stength and bam, sales
It’s on the box.
clifLook at the elitist over here that knows how to read : P
I never learned and you can’t make me.
sp3ctr4lAh!
There’s dihydrogen monoxide in my drinking water!
Ahhhhh!
CatoblepasWasn’t ibuprofen what they were blaming? Or did they switch to acetaminophen?
Edit: just saw the Trump clip, now it’s acetaminophen’s fault, lmao. Funny how it’s something that’s actually safe to take for pain during pregnancy, because of course they can never pass up a chance at making women suffer
I only ever saw Tylenol.
They don’t care about women’s suffering, but I think this is a case where it’s incompetence rather than malice.
What’s extra crazy about this is that one thing we do know, for certain, can be damaging to a fetus is for the mother to have a fever. Acetaminophen reduces fevers. This is yet another case of an anti-vaxx nutjob thinking the cure is worse than the disease.
ScubusNot to mention, this doesnt prove tylenol doesnt cause cancer, it just proves that tylenol isnt the only cause of cancer.
Obv it doesnt, but this argument is just bad.
you fucked the argument lol
That mother fucker is absolutely insane
abbiistabbiiDo you think RFK knows this?
That's the dumbest shit I've heard in a long time LMAO
I have no doubt that Tylenol isn't as safe as it's made out to be, but RFKs brain worms swung way too far in the other direction lol
Tylenol would be a prescription drug if it hit the market today. Had a friend blow her liver and lie in a coma for two months until she got a transplant. She was a hardcore alcoholic, and this is an alcoholic saying that. Doctor addressed the family and told them alcohol wasn’t the factor, the liver failure was 100% down to Tylenol.
OTOH, I’ve seen a lot of ignorant comments from people thinking it does cumulative damage. Nope, just don’t do too much at once.
She was a hardcore alcoholic, and this is an alcoholic saying that. Doctor addressed the family and told them alcohol wasn’t the factor, the liver failure was 100% down to Tylenol.
That doesn’t sound realistic, that a hardcore alcoholic’s liver failure was 0% from alcohol abuse. I suspect that the information changed at some point in the process of relating it to you.
It was probably just that the Tylenol overdose was the immediate cause, and somebody took that to mean that alcoholism was not a factor.
ryannathansProbably that paracetamol becomes far more toxic when alcohol has depleted the liver’s glutathione stores
She was popping them like Tic Tacs. When they dropped the new liver in, they found 3’ of gangrenous small intestine, hence the overdose. She’d pop two, still in pain, no difference, pop another two, rinse and repeat, all afternoon.
Can’t remember what she estimated, won’t try to repeat it, but she went fucking nuts. I think that would kill about any of us.
Glad we have these conversations. We were all shocked to learn that Tylenol could crash your liver. Wasn’t the common knowledge 25-years ago that it is today.
Surgeon said her alcoholism was hardly a factor. “Believe it or not…”, were his words. He saw her fucking liver, in situ, I’m going to go with his expertise.
Given that she was only around 40, and given that some of us have “Ozzy” genes, I’m not too surprised, though I was at the time. Human’s can have wildly different experiences, no one-size-fits-all. Hell, I’m not allergic to poison ivy. Weird.
Ah, of course. When, as you said, the doctor addressed “the family” and told “them” that stuff, of course, I assumed that you, being “a friend” wouldn’t have been there, or at least would have said “us” instead of “them.”
But of course, you were actually there and heard the words directly with the family. Cool.
We learned somewhat recently it can dull emotional pain
It was around for decades and decades then just some years ago researchers figured that out. Always much to learn, not from brainworm scammer though of course
Wow, thank you for bringing that up. That’s potentially very helpful in some situations.
Specifically I’m thinking that it might be worth taking a preemptive dose prior to contact with a known trigger, to assist with exposure therapy.
Don’t blame me for his bullshit…it’s empty in here
I … are y’all this stupid?
I mean I know dumb man is dumb and I don’t care to watch him speak but I don’t think he’s saying tylenol™ was the sole creator of fucking autism.
Just saying that like 60,000 other things, inlcuding like every other pain killer, that it can cause issues for the developing baby and thus should be avoided if possible.
Hell it probably wasn’t explicitly on the list mostly as it’s the least unsafe painkiller.
"Don’t take Tylenol,” Trump said
The argument has always been that autism is on the rise and they’re casting about for a factor. I think it’s mostly, if not all, a matter of better diagnostic tools and procedures. Maybe there is another factor, but not seeing them present any real evidence here.
Also, Tylenol is hardly safe. Had a friend blow out her liver, was in a coma for 2-months until she got a replacement.
Responsible for 56,000 emergency department visits and 2600 hospitalizations, acetaminophen poisoning causes 500 deaths annually in the United States. Notably, around 50% of these poisonings are unintentional, often resulting from patients misinterpreting dosing instructions or unknowingly consuming multiple acetaminophen-containing products.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441917/
And who could forget the Tylenol Murders? :) It was a BIG deal, whole country scared shitless. I was only 11 but well aware of the whole thing.
Funny the event never comes up, but that’s why we have restrictive packaging. When I was a child, you could pull a product off the shelf, pop the top and remove the cotton wad, that easy. It was really weird watching the packaging change hit overnight.
Acetaminophen Toxicity
Acetaminophen toxicity is prevalent, primarily due to the drug's widespread availability and the common perception of its safety. In the United States, acetaminophen toxicity is the leading cause of liver failure. Over 60 million Americans use acetaminophen weekly, often unknowingly, due to its presence in various combination products, particularly those containing opioids and diphenhydramine.[1][2][3] Acetaminophen, also known as N-acetyl-para-aminophenol or paracetamol, functions as an antipyretic and analgesic with a mechanism distinct from nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications. Although its mode of action, specifically the selective inhibition of cyclooxygenase in the brain, is not fully understood, acetaminophen effectively alleviates fever and pain. In addition, it may inhibit prostaglandin synthesis in the central nervous system and directly affect the hypothalamus to produce an antipyretic effect.[4]
Yeah this all reads as “well fuck we said we were gonna have something so we’ll just go with this thing we already knew should probably be avoided but left as the only real option so we’ll say it’s that and not actually change anything.”
Now I am much more worried about is their “cure” that was “tested” and posted about in Feb of this year… on… one… single… 3 year old… who they fully doxxed showing that, incase it wasn’t obvious by n=1, that the study is fucking bullshit and not following NIH standards at all.
Hadn’t thought about the appearance of doing something. This admin will just let RFK run wild because it won’t affect any of them.