Anon doesn't understand streamer fans

https://sh.itjust.works/post/46453921

I’ve been watching streamers who I don’t want to fuck. A lot of the time, I’m kinda too lazy to play games myself, and watching streams is a much more passive activity (if you don’t participate in the chat etc.).
I’m… Too lazy to play games? Bruh what
Skill-driven games require major dedication. Why would @[email protected] care to suffer through Silksong, not knowing what to do or where to go, getting frustrated by having to memorize enemy moves, etc. when there are experts out there who have already discovered everything and the most efficient takedown methods (or other amateurs who don’t find it as painful to explore so)? I see nothing wrong with this. I used to be a huge gamer but frankly I find tinkering with Syncthing and Espanso perhaps even more fun than playing tough games.
This comment is so funny to me. I watch game streams primarily because I don’t have time to play most games myself, but Silksong is the one game in the last year that I was excited enough about to play through myself.
I mean depending on the game the stuff does take energy. I've been malding Silksong these past few days for example and it's definitely not for the faint (or lazy) of heart.

Is that why im getting fusteated at points? The game is difficult?

After years and years of megaman I have no idea what my skill cap is.

Actively playing games requires concentration, thinking, planning, quick reaction etc. and many games include long stretches that test your tolerance for frustration. Meanwhile, game streams can be a completely passive activity that add an illusion of company and let you stuff your face with snacks.
The aback I was taken had nothing to do with your comment, but the fact that I am absolutely certain I know what shape you are. Wild.
Probably not true, though.

add an illusion of company

Now this part I personally dislike; if it feels like but is not actually building my social connectivity, then I think that’s better to avoid, emotionally speaking. I try to scratch that itch by watching friends personally stream titles, or by being the streamer for private circles of mostly/only people I know IRL. We also play a lot on Board Game Arena.

Well, my friends don’t stream and I sleep at weird hours. I don’t have a ton of good alternatives, and it’s not like I’m participating in chat or donating lots of money.
Gotcha, that’s a tricky situation.
For me it’s when I’m too fucking tired from work to even think that well, but it’s still to early for bed so I just zone out.
Is that person even human ?
Yup, watched a bunch of games I’d never play myself. Especially grindy games. Watching a stream/video is also much less of a commitment, I hate leaving games unfinished.

My ass is relatively hopeless at fighting games, and although I could spend the time to slave away and grind at my couch for hours in the dozens of fighting games there are, I’d rather watch some compilation greatest moments. It’s an art to me, like playing an instrument. Shit I could do if I bother to learn it, but I don’t have the time, there’s so many, and I can easily find someone else doing it way better.

Just learned about the Daigo Parry a few days ago and the clip was so hype to me even if I barely know SF 3 mechanics.

I watch the movie edited versions of dayz streams on YouTube while I’m working.

Meaning a dude who plays dayz records his streams, edits it into a ā€œmovieā€ and posts it to YouTube.

I don’t play dayz… never have. But it’s nice to have some noise a narrative and easily consumable content in the background while I’m working.

I only watch top tier players so I can get better at whatever the game is. I’d rather be playing, but my obligations are such that I can watch (say, while doing laundry or dishes) when I can’t play. I find it makes my play sessions more effective since I have strategies to succeed where I’d otherwise fail.

That said, I’m pretty sure I’m in the minority given that many of the chats I see on streams are like ā€œwhat did I miss?ā€ or ā€œhas streamer done X yet?ā€ like they’re watching a drama. I don’t understand that aspect of streaming, yet comments like yours show that I’m likely in the minority.

I think that’s really interesting and turns gaming from a hobby to a social endeavor.

We been trying to go backwards ever since the first life form split. Some are more motivated than others. The hive mind explores every potential ctrl+z for mitosis... Put it back! Stop! No, go away!... Lone star the barbarian just wanna get merged n go home.

We're all just animals under the surface. Human exceptionalism is a fallacy. The hormones are just as much a part of you as any conscious thought.

The stranger thing to me is why this type of performance is a thing people watch in the first place. I to not mean that in a judgemental way at all. I am more interested in what it says about the nature of entertainment and human social behavior. This seems like a glitch in the meaning and value of tribalism. The potential benefit is very limited. The person performing has obvious returns on investment. It is the others that I question.

Monkey brain horny.
But why not porn then?
Because she might see my message and talk to me? Then maybe more? While many other factors going on see Taylor Swift?

It is the others that I question.

Loneliness meets parasocial relationships

Kinda answered his own question there, didn’t he.
They very much know what they’re doing. In an era where legit anyone can do this stuff now, they gotta stand out or just have vagina. Not all streamers are baiting hormones, but incidentally I don’t get being a streamer fan such that you’re even paying money to someone to play a video game. Makes about as much sense to pay someone playing sports millions of dollars but hey, that’s just me. Peace
Maybe they’ll learn about porn one day
Unless they’re 15 in Texas and don’t understand VPNs or proxies.
For the best. Stay in school, cowboy.
True but I navigated an internet with child locks out the ass when I was a kid and still could find lots of porn

I’ve no difficulty understanding lads being thirsty and attracted by a lovely lady who appears to be into gaming and hey, you can even interact and try to get her attention!

Now, explain to me lads getting super invested in some lads running around a field chasing a ball. Like, literally having their lives revolve around it, their identity entirely centered on it. Now that’s a complete mystery to me.

its like joining a cult, you swap your weaker identity with the stronger cult identity

I actually understood sports fandom for the first time because of watching streamers play video games. I was like ooooohhh, this is a very challenging skill, and I’m watching someone do it very very well, and I’m fucking hyped and I want to see more.

I never in my life had that for basketball or anything. But it made sense when I saw it for video games.

Each to their own pal. I’m sure there are things you do that others find a mystery.
That is a magnificently executed thought-terminating clichƩ, but if I may offer a rebuttal: nuh-uh!

Hey, no hate on people loving sports!

My point was it’s super clear why a teenager wants to thirst on a pretty woman playing vidya.

Now, my irish mates all having their club and being all very serious about it, when they’ll curse the English in the same sentence has always been hilarious to me.
And I’m talking people from fecking Donegal, who lived through the Troubles and shit. Never understood that one.

It’s cool.

I’ve never really understood it either to be honest. I’ve gravitated to solo sports and more admiration at the ability than the winning per se.

I’m from Manchester, UK, so been around a lot of Irish people. Had a lovely time in Port-Stewert once. (Port-Stewart?) At the same time I’ve put countless hours into Minecraft, Factorio, Running, or climbing and people wonder why.

Why?

Their mad at the English government, not the English people. An English football club is entirely separate from the English government.

Good point, cheers!
Most of the time it’s the social aspect that is infectious. It gives you something in common with other fans that would otherwise be strangers to you
I never understood sports fans until walking around Key West with my Navy buddy who wore a hat for the Browns. Random dudes kept cracking jokes at and/or with him the whole day. Still ain’t enough to get me into the cult, but I get the appeal now.

Sometimes I think I should spend a few minutes each day reading the sports headlines, just so I know what’s going on enough to banter with people about the latest goings-on.

But, ain’t got time or energy for all that.

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?
Thing about Arsenal, they always try and walk it in.
As a dude who’s sometimes socially awkward and struggles to connect with men, becoming invested in football seemed like a serious cheat code to me tbh. Sit with random strangers at a bar? They’re wearing something that makes their club affiliation obvious, or they spot yours? You’re there talking how is the season going, is their keeper recovered, when will your striker score again? And maybe throw some well-meant insults while saying cheers.
As a guy who is socially awkward with other men, the longer I’m around them, the more difficult it is for me to conceal how very different I am from them.
Aye, like wearing a cool metal shirt and getting the horns from a complete stranger. We do like our tribe(s), don’t we?
As long as we get to pick our tribes, realize that it is all good-spirited tribalism and banter, and are able to tolerate if people pick a different tribe, I’m cool with it. Hell yeah, brother 🤘
Holy fuck I wish lemmy gold was a thing i could give you. Sport fans always seemed like cultists to me.
Expanding on the penis in vagina theme for a minute…
Now that’s a bit of a stretch

As someone who was born into the ball chasing cult, there are three things:

  • The social aspect. It’s the one thing that brings my family together, each week, to watch the game. For away games, you have a cookout with some family friends, buy some drinks and then you watch the game. If it’s in the evening, then you go out afterwards. For home games, you gather the same group, but now you’re gonna meet more people in the arena, people you know because they’re also in the cult. You have a drink, you have a laugh and you catch up with them. Our team is a second division side with some okay players and a great goalie, so the game is almost relegated (heh) to play second fiddle.
  • Oh and don’t get me started on the choreos.

  • Hometown pride: This team has been here since the 19th century and for me, going to the games or even having just a passing interest in the team is part of being from that town.
  • You tag lamp posts in your town with their stickers and you do the same in the surrounding smaller cities. By looking at the stickers in any given town, you can see to which city their youth gravitates, which tickles my brain in ways I can’t explain.

  • It’s fun to watch: Arguably the weakest reason, but God damn, sometimes even second division footy just looks so good! When you see someone pull off a sick trick or make a clean tackle or catch, you get that sweet dopamine kick, it’s insane.
  • I’d never beat someone because of their allegiance. Those people can kick rocks.

    Fair-play to you for a thoughtful answer. Much appreciated and it certainly matches my personal experience.
    As I said somewhere else : seeing my mates being all up in arms about ManU when they live in fecking Donegal was always funny to me, but I totally see the social aspect.
    So much banter at the pub! If there is a thing the Irish love, it’s a good banter.

    Shame about the assholes who use it as an excuse to get into fights. Fecking idiots the lot of them.

    Thanks for the kind words, I really have to take every excuse to practice writing in English ^^

    Yeah, I definitely forgot about the banter and storylines.

    I think what contributes the most to the sports ball hype is that a lot of people play sports ball themselves. And just like gamers watching streams of people playing the games they want to play or are playing, ball cultists wanna see guys do the shit they do on some backwater pitch. You know, for the ā€œdamn, I know that’s difficultā€ or the ā€œI could do it betterā€ - factor.

    Man, the ā€œdamn, I know that’s difficultā€ is strong in every sport. I can appreciate a sport so much more if I did it myself, even just a few months. Fencing? No idea, people waving some sticks around. Soccer football? Sick volley shot, man, I saw a mate to the same thing back in 2006…

    Yeah, I think it’s also ā€œI saw like 10 of my mates shit the bed trying to do thatā€.

    Thanks for avoiding the s-word btw ^^

    I appreciate the summary and I think i get why people like sports ball… but I really enjoy having a sports ball free space to talk about how absurd it is the way our society obsesses over it. on the internet, you’re the weirdo, not me!
    It’s weird to be both somewhat of a nerd and a sports ball person since birth, so I get your comment :)

    Hometown pride

    Do you also refer to your city’s sport team using ā€œweā€, ā€œusā€, and ā€œourā€? I’ve always found that weird, because while I’m a fan, I don’t consider myself being a part of what the team accomplishes. I’m just a spectator. I just refer to them as the team name.

    I have pretty deep roots within the city, and I could not imagine not rooting for my team (within limits, I wouldn’t tolerate bigotry, but as of now, they behaved pretty good on that front), so yeah, I use ā€œwirā€ and ā€œunsā€ :)