A communications tool must have censorship resistance (decentralization), anonymous signup without requiring a phone, and have an official way to obtain binaries signed by the community instead of by corpos that can be forced to insert backdoors.

Signal fails on every single one of these criteria and that is why we must stop recommending it to our friends and family who have a very limited tolerance for technology changes.

Choose decentralization.

Use matrix, or make something better.

@lrvick slightly different focus than matrix, but @delta is ticking these boxes
@hko @delta nowhere near the userbase for network effects, or the cross-platform interoperability that I require which matrix is great at, however it does check all the other boxes, and thus it is easy to recommend over Signal.
@lrvick @delta it's definitely a smaller userbase, but i wonder which platforms matrix covers that delta doesn't?

@hko @delta

Nitpicking but: A TUI client as good as weechat, and an embedded microkernel client like the one being developed for the Precursor probably are most interesting to me on the matrix side.

Ultimately I want a device that is basically just a kernel, e-paper screen, wifi, and chat.

Matrix on precursor or Meshtastic currently look like my only hopes.

@lrvick @delta sure, wanting special purpose clients is fair.

I don't actually know if anyone is working on Delta clients in these directions, but it's good to have the interest on the record here :)
I'd expect they wouldn't be super hard to make, but someone would still need to do the actual work, of course 🤷

@lrvick following up re TUI delta clients:

Have you had a look at https://github.com/ArcaneChat/arcanechat-tui/ ?

GitHub - ArcaneChat/arcanechat-tui: [WIP] a lightweight ArcaneChat client for the command line

[WIP] a lightweight ArcaneChat client for the command line - ArcaneChat/arcanechat-tui

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