Are there more cases like this with #Slack? We have a 25k€/year plan and non-profit status and if this is systematic then I would initiate a #Mattermost installation _now_.
On a side note: Are self-hosted Mattermost instances free of license charges or do they still cost money?
I've been toying with the idea for a long time, but, as usual, the lock-in effect is quite substantial. We built a lot of workflows in Slack and have actual experts.
If Mattermost were free as a self-hosted instance, we would probably switch, but that I still think is not the case. Then we'd have an incentive to spend the time to transition.
Here, this might be contract change from "old" non-profit to a 20% rate. Which we already pay. So I'd like more statistics.
@knud @chris @kepano
What do you mean "if Mattermost were free as self-hosted instance"?
Mattermost *IS* opensource, and can be self-hosted.
Mattermost is an open-source, self-hostable online chat service with file sharing, search, and third party application integrations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattermost
Yes, but as soon as we need single sign-on capabilities this doesn't work with the "free" (Team) version but requires a Pro subscription - even if self-hosted. For 1000 active users this would be again several 10k€ per year.
"Non-profit" status would not apply since we're a science collaboration and not a registered non-profit.
@joosteto @knud @chris @kepano why do you need the single sign on? That's for companies that want to log once and have access to different services (email, chat, ticketing,...).
Any non for profit can work with a separated login on Mattermost. Which works wonderfully, if I may say.
And if you are a not for profit, ask Mattermost about some free/cheap hosting. They are usually generous and you can always migrate for free to your own instance if they stop the offer.
@delawen @joosteto @chris @kepano
We are a large science collaboration. We have a member system, we have a publication system, we have a Redmine server for issue tracking, we have a GitLab for code tracking, we have a Slack for communication, and some other services. With >1000 active people this can't be managed manually without an SSO system. We'd rather put out person power towards the science than to administrating things by hand.
@knud @delawen @joosteto @chris @kepano
You could look into #Zulip. SSO and all other features are *included* even when you go with the free plan. You just have to set it up on your own.
Paying customers will get support for these and other "enterprisey" features, but the features themselves are not exclusive to them.
@knud @joosteto @kepano Ich erinnere mich vage, etwas darüber gelesen zu haben, als ich mich mit gitlab beschäftigt habe. Ich bin nicht sicher, ob das hier der Artikel war, und ich habe das nicht ausprobiert (wir hatten ja gitlab), aber vielleicht ist es ja nützlich:
https://ayedo.de/posts/mattermost-self-hosted-sso-mit-authentik/
SSO only from Pro plan:
https://docs.mattermost.com/product-overview/plans.html
And one can only self-host Team version.
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