This week, California passed legislation banning ultra-processed foods

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This week, California passed legislation banning ultra-processed school meals - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

I have mixed feelings on this. Multiple family members worked in public schools, and a lot of kids want garbage processed foods. They know and like fruit loops and gold fish. They also like tomatoes and fresh fruit sometimes, but sometimes they just want comfort foods. I fully support healthy options and funding school lunches to the point they are delicious and nutritious, but you gotta meet some of these kids where they are, not where you want them to be.

you gotta meet some of these kids where they are, not where you want them to be.

The government uses its funding to buy these meals. So, I do not think that the government should be adding revenue to some of the worst players in the food industry.

If the kids want to go get junk food using their parents’ money and bring it into school, they can do that.

I don’t think you’re coming from a bad place, I just feel like there are competing interests between whats good for kids physically and economicaly (long term) vs short term (mentally). We want schools to do both, and ideally with healthy great food. but I’m sure you have needs for terrible food sometimes, judgement free, and denying that comfort and calories because you think they should like better food, doesn’t feel great. ideally, healthy whole local food…but also some baby steps into it maybe?

I don’t actually have a need for terrible food sometimes. I reach for it at times because it’s the only thing that isn’t spoiled, or it’s the thing that takes the least amount of time to prepare, both of which aren’t problems when someone else should be making sure that the food isn’t spoiled and preparing it for the kids.

The government should not be paying Lay’s (for example). Again, the food is free…so if they want some specific type of cheesy poof trash they can get their parents to cough up the $5 for the bag.

So instead of Lays they’ll start serving the kids fresh cut fries, double fried and generously salted.

Why are those the only two choices?

Also, even stuff that is processed a bit unhealthily as it’s being cooked is better than bullshit that’s stuffed full of preservatives so it can be consumed non-refrigerated a decade after the apocalypse.

They’re not. I was just trying to give an example of something you could swap out the Lays for that would not be “ultra processed food” but still be just as unhealthy.

I think you’re establishing a burden of proof there you’re not actually prepared to meet, so you can just go ahead and stop replying.

You ever sweeten a bit of iced tea you brewed yourself? I can nearly guarantee you didn’t stuff it full of the type of shit you find regularly in, for instance, a canned lipton tea.

Every time I’ve brewed iced tea it always tastes super weak sauce. Canned/packaged iced teas taste wayyyyyy too sweet to me. I just want ice cold flavourful tea with a tiny bit of sweetness. How do you do that?

I’m sure Lipton iced tea is full of artificial colours and emulsifiers and possibly even fats for some reason, in addition to excessive amounts of sugar. I’m not going to defend that crap. No one should drink that stuff.

There are other teas than Lipton premades, come on, are your seriously asking > How do you do that?
Yes I’m serious. I think my issue is that I use hot water to brew the tea and then ice to cool it down which makes it too watery!

So here is what I do. I’m sorry, I’m about to be wordy.

I take my stock pot and fill it with water.

One tea bag, is for one cup of tea, yes? So how many cups of tea water are in your pot?

My stock pot uses around a gallon of water, I am completely guessing but it’s somewhere not much more than a gallon. I use 6 to 7 tea bags for this.

You boil the water, turn it off once it’s bubbling and make your tea, as normal with many tea bags.

Once the tea bags have done their job (for me 3-4 minutes) you’ll discard the tea bags and add your sweetener while it’s still hot. I usually use sugar and/or honey. You’ll have to measure this to your own taste. For sugar, personally I put about a half cup, maybe a bit less. Honey I measure more prudently because the local stuff is expensive. Anyhow. Do this while the its still hot and stir. At this point I like to add fresh lemon juice if I have it and stir that in too.

Here’s the part you’re not going to like. You have now just prepped the tea. Set it off to the side for an hour at least. Just, let it cool to room temperature. Once it’s, at minimum, lukewarm, you can then transfer it to a container for the refrigerator, and pour yourself a glass over ice.

Iced tea requires forethought.

Or like the other person said, use more tea bags to make it stronger so that when the ice melts it’s not garbage water. Though I find this method wasteful because you need double the tea bags, and you just end up with lukewarm tea anyway because the ice melts so fast

Just make a big pot, and wait. It’s like proofing bread. No, you dont have an active role in the step, but it is vital for good bread. Have patience and you’ll get good iced tea for at least a few days.

I have a pitcher at home just for this, and basically do the same for iced coffee (though I leave coffee black). I brew a pot in standard home fashion and set it off to cool, then refrigerate it.

Wow thank you for the very detailed reply! I’m saving this!