(also, straight up - if they ever tell you to disavow or go to prison? You disavow. Stop being fucking morons man; words are weapons, and you use them as necessary. These nazis have no problem lying to you, why would you pick not lying to them as the hill to die on?

This is serious man. We're headed for some shit you don't believe is even possible right now. They may well start locking ppl up for simply not AGREEING that the left is terrorism incarnate.)

@AnarchoNinaWrites I knew a jewish guy who survived Nazi Germany. He told me that he never admitted to being Jewish - he didn't "look" Jewish, and survived long enough to escape where he joined a resistance. He told me that G-d put him here to live and fight, so he lied.

@AnarchoNinaWrites every question from these people is a demand for you to make a loyalty oath. i'm endlessly baffled when people do not see this or have not noticed it from every other petty tyrant they've ever encountered. from cops to shitty bosses to other abusers.

when they are too hollow, violent, disconnected, and incompetent to inspire actual agreement or affection they demand it with force. which dovetails with their deep belief in force as the ultimate arbiter of all things.

@dank

Exactly. Fascists telling us to mourn the passing of one of theirs?

It's a loyalty oath you're forced to take, supossedly because murder is bad, yet they wouldn't give a shit and celebrate if it was us leftists, black people, brown people, gay people, trans folks, the homeless or any marginalized group they care to single out and murder or at least subjugate for that matter.

@AnarchoNinaWrites

@AnarchoNinaWrites This has pretty much been my position since the occupation of L.A.. Practicing what I preach, I would pull a Kaiser Sosze and

@AnarchoNinaWrites Dilma Rousseff, the 1st woman president of Brazil, fought against the military dictatorship when she was young. She was arrested and tortured.

Eventually, she was grilled by the Senate about alleged corruption issues in her govt. They recalled that after the dictatorship, she admitted to lying to the torturers implying she couldn't be trusted.
She replied "I'm very proud to have lied. Lying under torture isn't easy. Under torture, those who have courage and dignity lie."

@AnarchoNinaWrites point is, not only is it not a moral failing to lie to fascists, it's actually the best thing to do. By lying, she protected her comrades and made the efforts of the dictatorship a tiny bit more difficult
@AnarchoNinaWrites (just a correction because I got my history mixed up - this Senate hearing was before she was president. At the time she was Chief of Staff of the then president)
@Kiloku lol; no biggie. And I agree with you re: the moral virtue of lying to fascists to gum up their machines.