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Fight Chat Control Sep 14, 2025

Danish Minister of Justice and chief architect of the current Chat Control proposal, Peter Hummelgaard:

"We must break with the totally erroneous perception that it is everyone's civil liberty to communicate on encrypted messaging services."

Share your thoughts via https://fightchatcontrol.eu/, or to [email protected] directly.

Source: https://www.ft.dk/samling/20231/almdel/REU/spm/1426/index.htm

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Ondřej Pokorný Sep 14, 2025

@chatcontrol We must break with the totally erroneous perception that it is technically feasible to outlaw encryption.

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Ati Sep 14, 2025

@ondra @chatcontrol That is my first question in chat control topic. How on earth would they enforce it ? 🤔

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cube Sep 15, 2025

@ati1 @ondra @chatcontrol they can't. They would have to basically outlaw non-approved apps to be installed or used on any computer in Europe. Cory Doctorow has talked about this multiple times; authoritarians and Capitalists would love to put the Turing machine back into the proverbial bottle … but it doesn't work like that. You cannot exclude a Turing machine from doing "a specific thing". You cannot subtract features from a Turing machine, because it has only one feature: turing-completedness

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Alex Sep 15, 2025

@qbe @ati1 @ondra @chatcontrol

if you look at the age verification app proposal from the EU, they are pretty much enforcing it in a way that you can only use the EU age verification apps if your phone passes Android integrity tests, which Google is changing in the next version to require developer verification for sideloading apps to your phone (i.e., only verified developers can create an app that can be sideloaded)

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Alex

@qbe @ati1 @ondra @chatcontrol

meaning, if you have lots of sideloaded apps through F-Droid, your phone would probably fail integrity tests, which would not allow you to use the age verification app, locking you out of the service you want to access...