Duchamp's Fountain (more images in post)

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/31741994

Fountain is unfashionably based. I’ve used this to reassure my cousin who started painting for his PTSD and got told by a bunch of shitheads that he wasn’t a “Real Artist” when he sold some art.

This stuff is a litmus test for when you’re in a culture war with people trying to hide the fact they’re warring with you on every front they can

Only people who don’t understand art say that people “aren’t real artists.” It’s the most obvious way to know that someone’s opinion isn’t worth listening to.
Perhaps, I think I’m guilty of that too in this exact thread. The generative AI question is a focal point if such notions and it doesn’t seem like there will ever be a consensus without at least some learned people asserting that something isn’t art.

The same thing happened to photography, and other kinds of modern art, too. Things are often excluded from being art until they are included (to at least a subset of people).

With AI it is often questionable how much ‘intent’ someone has put into a work: ‘wrote a simple trivial prompt, generated a few images, shared all of them’ results in uninteresting slop, while ‘spent a lot of time to make the AI generate exactly what you want, even coming up with weird ways to use the model (like this)’ is a lot more interesting in my view.

That’s what I said too! Is there another way to view that link? I’m either struggling with opening it in my browser or my current VPN server
I’ve added a non archive link.
Ayyyy, thank you that’s pretty cool. This is how we got all those pictures hiding shrek’s face, isn’t it?
Yup, or at least a refined version of this idea. The paper they reference on the technique has more examples.
Wow, okay setting an artist employ these in a wider sweeping piece, I wouldn’t have a doubt in my mind that was art. I feel like I’ve probably seen a few of these already and just by not knowing how it worked dismissed it as analogue art.