Duchamp's Fountain (more images in post)

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/31741994

Fountain is unfashionably based. I’ve used this to reassure my cousin who started painting for his PTSD and got told by a bunch of shitheads that he wasn’t a “Real Artist” when he sold some art.

This stuff is a litmus test for when you’re in a culture war with people trying to hide the fact they’re warring with you on every front they can

Only people who don’t understand art say that people “aren’t real artists.” It’s the most obvious way to know that someone’s opinion isn’t worth listening to.
Perhaps, I think I’m guilty of that too in this exact thread. The generative AI question is a focal point if such notions and it doesn’t seem like there will ever be a consensus without at least some learned people asserting that something isn’t art.
I mean the toilet is quite obviously art, you can understand exactly what the artist was expressing. AI art literally isn’t art because it lacks any expression or meaning.

AI art, in my mind, is art in the same way that “photography” is art. It’s people using a tool.
AI art is unsatisfying not because it’s not art, but because it doesn’t have as much depth or intention behind it.
In the image above, you know exactly what I’m trying to convey and what references I’m making in doing so. But knowing that it’s AI, you also know I spent all of 10 seconds on it for a laugh. I could have put in more work to flesh out how the details should look, and to get everything just right, but the tool makes it too easy to get “close enough”, so there’s no push to refine, get the details right, and put the time into it that would make someone else feel compelled to appreciate the attention or statement.

My hand drawn representation of the same idea in about the same time conveys roughly the same expression and meaning, if we adjust for “drawing with thumb on a phone”, “bad handwriting in general”, and "why did my own default to… Fuschia? "