Normal people don't know who Charlie Kirk is. My mom, dad, husband, neighbor are very confused why it's such a big deal.

Which is good to remember. He's never done anything notable. Didn't run for office, didn't break a big story, didn't write an important book.

So, for a lot of people this is all very confusing.

@futurebird my partner literally showed me the video of the shooting, and called him "some nazi guy".

later while watching youtube went "who the fuck is this charlie kirk guy" completely unaware of who it was. (hes a construction worker who is wonderfully unplugged)

he had no clue, but had seen the video in context of "nazi got got"

@RetroRelics

I'm annoyed with the liberals fretting over the optics of "disrespectful" online reactions to this news and frankly by some of the reactions that ignore the dynamic of this kind of violence. The pattern with these things has been "disillusioned right wingers"

I would like to talk about all of the very upset well armed unstable people we've been farming as of late.

@RetroRelics @futurebird Kirk had already said that people should forget about Epstein. I find it plausible as tomorrow’s sunrise that an(other) armed QAnon type took that poorly.

@SistaWendy @RetroRelics @futurebird

Interesting take, I hadn't considered Epstein/QAnon as a motive. I can't think of anyone else who is both anti-Kirk and that violent. Echos of Pizzagate.

How many assassinations are done from the victim's own side? Malcom X, Ghandi, Yitzhak Rabin...

@Phosphenes @SistaWendy @futurebird there is a ton of meat on conspiracy bones to be picked at, both in the fact that kirk was part of the crowd dismissing the epstein files, the senate vote against releasing the epstein files having been the biggest story of the day until the shooting, a number of openly anti israel comments that he had expressed concerns about being harmed for by a state sanctioned actor, putin wanting to show that he can strike anyone who doesnt fall in line (kirk was one of the ones calling out the paid propaganda campaigns)...

and with the way everyone is already spinning this and has already made up their minds about who must be at fault, no matter what the truth *is* no one will actually believe it, everyone will call fake news

@RetroRelics @SistaWendy @futurebird

Yeah, and it's a lot easier for Trump to lie about the killer if they never find the killer.

So they have incentives to never solve this case.