We should honor him by not letting gun violence emotionally hijack the conversation.

You’re DISGUSTING! SOMEONE was Murdered with a GUN! HAVE SOME RESPECT!

We’re talking about Charlie Kirk and NOT the School Shootings right? I NEED to make sure I’m on the Right Topic!

The most respectful thing we can do is honor his beliefs:

“I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.” - Charlie Kirk

"“I think empathy is a made up New Age term that has done a lot of damage” - Charlie Kirk

“Guns save lives” - Charlie Kirk

So many things I want to say, but won't because it'll probably get me banned....

So...

Thoughts and prayers!

Sir this is Wendy not Reddit

nah, the mods over at /news are going ban happy if anybody says anything resembling approval of the outcome of this event

pretty pathetic considering the community and instance rules weren’t broken

How are my comments up then? Cause I’m thoughly advocating that this is simply a good start.

I guess they just got pissy at me when I called them out on it because they removed one of my comments that wasn’t even as bad as a bunch of others I see over there now

so they’re just pissy little cunts, I guess

You took the thoughts and prayers right out of my mouth

They say you should only say good things about the dead.

Charlie Kirk is dead. Good.

I got perm banned from Reddit for saying that the only good Nazi…
Reddit is a shit country anyway.
Butterfly kisses on that pretty neck.
Join my anti-prayer circle! Meant to undo all the praying the Christians aren’t doing, but claimed to do. We’ll do nothing and succeed.
You reap what you sow, and this dipshit sowed a whole bunch of hate and now he suffered his concequences. Bye bye default Mii Character, you were a shit stains shit stain.

He was shot in the neck and is presumably dead, as a staggering loss of blood was reportedly observed.

shot on the carotid artery? that’s a lotta damage
That’s a trained shot… I bet they are going to blame it on a socially autistic kid.
It’s a lucky shot. No trained shooter is going to aim for the neck, so whoever shot him missed their target but still managed to hit a vital spot.
At least he died doing what he loved

Spewing horrific quantities of shit better left inside, traumatizing and radicalizing all young people that witness it?

Yeah sounds right

That and making, in what should be seen as the sole crowning jewel upon a veritable turdwagon of a life as a professional waste of carbon, the best argument in favor of gun violence since Brian Thompson strolled past St Luigi
I think he’s going to live… He’s in critical condition and the absolute worst scum on this earth never die, especially not young.
Live updates: Charlie Kirk assassinated at university event in Utah

Authorities say conservative activist Charlie Kirk was killed by a single shot in a targeted attack during an outdoor event Wednesday at Utah Valley University.

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He’s a martyr now, and his voice might just become louder.
A martyr for what, though? His platform has made guns a part of their identity.
He was very outspoken about Christianity and conservatism. Historically, every time Christians have been publicly killed, Christianity spreads more rapidly.

I upvoted you, I recognize what you’re getting at. I think that circumstances are so fucked that it’s still too early to tell how it will be spun, but Christianity and martyrdom certainly go hand in hand as you say.

Perhaps they’ll ‘capture’ the shooter and it will be a trans person. Idk, you aren’t wrong for thinking this is a possibility.

I upvoted you, too
Now kith
I didn’t upvote you. Yet. I kinda want to tho, dammit.
I upvoted you 😘
No, Louder’s the other guy.
Steven Crowder's "Change My Mind" Campus Sign | Know Your Meme

Steven Crowder’s “Change My Mind” Campus Sign is a photograph of conservative podcaster Steven Crowder seated behind a sign that reads “Male Privilege is a

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Now that’s an obituary I can read with great satisfaction.

Another former president, Democrat Bill Clinton, wrote on X that he was saddened and angered by the killing, adding he hoped “we all go through some serious introspection” and “redouble our efforts to engage in debate passionately, yet peacefully.”

Apparently Clinton can go fuck himself.

I mean he IS a certified Epstein island pedophile, soooo
That's true. I forget about that.
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Telling lies and hating.
Yep talking about hatred and spewing right wing screed.
Saw the video and ya… he won’t be walking that one off. Medical science has come a long way but that’s testing the limits.
I can’t find video since everything is flooded with news people talking about it and won’t show the actual footage. Got a link?
/b on 4chan has it around
I saved it, not sure where to post without it getting taken down tho…
That wasn’t squirting. That was a gusher. I doubt he even knew what happened. His hands instantly clenched. Immediate access to the machine elves.

It’s too bad that he just suddenly appeared in hell(*) looking around like Confused Travolta. It would have been more just if his brain had had a minute or two to process that after spending his life promoting guns, he was killed by a gun.

(* Yeah, hell doesn’t exist, but he thought it did)

The video is all over the internet. Up close, from far away. It’s snuff. CNN played it. It’s everywhere.

I’m all for gun ownership but you can do better than just accepting mass numbers of deaths.

Make gun education a serious part of gun ownership. Guns shouldn’t be easily accessible to anyone regardless of training.

Also American society needs serious unfucking at all levels. Conservatives are bonkers but the "gun deaths are due to mental health issues" argument has merit; healthy and well-adjusted people don't grab the closest murder weapon and kill random people. Guns are a scapegoat so that politicians can avoid addressing the real issues.

I agree with you.

“Guns don’t kill people, people do,” is broadly true.

They sure make it easier though, which is why they shouldn’t be anywhere and everywhere.

Guns don’t kill people, people kill people…

… With guns.

healthy and well-adjusted people don’t grab the closest murder weapon and kill random people

People are still fundamentally apes. People get angry, people get drunk or high, people are low on sleep. Well functioning societies realize that at times people are not healthy and well-adjusted and try to limit the damage that someone can do to themselves and others in those circumstances. The US isn’t the only country in the world where people have mental health crises, or have road rage, or get depressed. What makes the US unique is that it makes tools for murdering people widely available to anybody who wants them.

The US isn't the only country in the world where people have mental health crises, or have road rage, or get depressed

Yes, but it's one of the few first world countries who do almost nothing about it. Did you know mass shootings are on the rise in Europe too despite no relaxation of gun control laws? France is even talking about regulating knive sales due to knife-based crime. Not so coincidentally, this is happening in a time of social and economic uncertainty. Also, one reason I say it's a mental health thing is that America has more knife-based violent crime than, say, Britain. This points to a deeper factor beyond gun laws leading to the amount of gun violence in America, because as it turns out violence in America is just insane across the board. All countries have people with mental health crises, but the absolute inadequacy of the response to those crises and the number of financial and social destabilizing factors making them more frequent and worse is uniquely American. I mean, with nonsense like tent cities being a common thing of course gun crime will be through the roof.

Yes, but it’s one of the few first world countries who do almost nothing about it.

It’s true that the US social safety net is bad, but the US isn’t that much more crazy than other places. If you search for “mental health care crisis in ______” you’ll see every country thinks they have a mental health care crisis.

Did you know mass shootings are on the rise in Europe

Is this based on statistics or a feeling? Statistically it seems like it’s a very low but steady rate, although statistics are skewed by Spiders Anders.

this is happening in a time of social and economic uncertainty

It’s also happening at a time of mass social media where fear about this sort of thing spreads like wildfire.

one reason I say it’s a mental health thing is that America has more knife-based violent crime than, say, Britain

Sure, but Brazil’s stabbing death rate is 8x that of the US, I guess their mental health is 8x worse? South Africa is more than 30x the US rate, so they must have some really crazy people there. There are some other major differences between the UK and US, just like there are other major differences between the US and Brazil or the US and South Africa.

The US does have issues with its response to mental health, but it’s not so different from other places. The lack of a social safety net in general causes problems. It means both untreated mental health issues, plus people living in poverty which leads to crime too. But, the bigger issue is that when Americans have a bad day, guns are so incredibly easily accessible.

Take a look at stabbing deaths in the UK vs. US and gun murders in the UK vs. the US. Yeah, stabbing deaths are maybe 50% higher, which points to something causing more violence. But, gun murders are 7000% higher, which suggests that the #1 issue really is access to guns.

Trump's knife crime claim: how do the US and UK compare?

Donald Trump has sought to defend the use of guns stateside by shining a light on knife crime in London. But is the UK really any worse than the US?

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Indeed. The USA is fairly unique in its gun culture - and violence. Far too casual. A .22 can kill a person, and there’s people driving kids to sports practice with 9mm and larger strapped to their bodies.

I don’t understand this line of thought

Everyone agrees that guns should be harder to access. Everyone agrees that the U.S. is now fascist.

Why the fuck would we cede control of our guns to a govt. that’s shown it’s incapable of doing anything but subjugating us? Seriously, why the fuck does that occur to any of you sharing this thought?

It makes me think you’re controlled opposition, genuinely.

People have been asking for gun control far longer than trump has been in office. The current acting president won’t sway their opinions on that, but it might sway their opinions how extreme they want the control to be.

Op was talking about him education being a party of gun ownership. They said nothing about giving up guns.

There’s more to gun control than just taking everyone’s guns.

Americas entire culture around guns needs to change, not just a little bit more training and education.

People who misuse guns don’t respect them or the power they yield. They views them as toys, and more often than not fuck around and find out.

Teaching them how to lock a gun up and telling them it’s important won’t change behaviours until people start to respect guns and fear them. Not casually pose with them for Christmas cards with their grandbaby in the room.