Anthropyevery time I see someone going "I finally ditched #firefox and went with this closed source chromium based alternative instead"
all I can think of is
W. Latif Ayubi 🏴☠️@anthropy Chromium itself is open source, and there are also open source chromium projects like ungoogled-chromium.
@wayubi I unironically think the Chromium opensource project is probably one of the best alternatives to Firefox.... Except that Google exerts significant control over it of course, and this is a problem if you care about e.g Manifest V3 aka "the adblocker blocker", which Firefox and derivatives have not implemented in such way.
@anthropy Does Google also exert control over the ungoogled chromium project?
@wayubi yea, they are still the main developers of it, and in general the manifest v3 thing is unavoidable on anything chromium derived unless they specifically implement workarounds for it
edit: no wait my bad I thought you meant the actual chromium project, not the "Ungoogled Chromium" project, which is of course made by different people. I still don't think they actually worked around Manifest v3 though
@anthropy I'm not exactly sure what the issue is with Manifest V3. I use ublock origin in my chromium based browser, and it still works in them.
Adblock Plus says they're Manifest V3 compliant, so the extension continues to work with the latest chromium manifests.
> Update as of 5/3/2024: The Manifest V3 version of the Adblock Plus extension is officially here!
https://blog.adblockplus.org/blog/how-adblock-plus-is-getting-ready-for-manifest-v3
@wayubi oh interesting I thought they made it impossible
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ah, it seems that it definitely does impact adblockers because now they have to predefine sets of things to filter and it is not nearly as flexible as it was in v2. Basically everyone got nerfed and things like trackers are harder to block now and one might've noticed in ublock the filtering rules to be less advanced, in ABP I'm not sure it's as visible, but it supposedly does impact its ability to filter things more thoroughly.
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ah, it seems that it definitely does impact adblockers because now they have to predefine sets of things to filter and it is not nearly as flexible as it was in v2. Basically everyone got nerfed and things like trackers are harder to block now and one might've noticed in ublock the filtering rules to be less advanced, in ABP I'm not sure it's as visible, but it supposedly does impact its ability to filter things more thoroughly.
@anthropy Well, who knows. I haven't noticed an impact, and I don't know about adblock, but chromium with ublock origin is still blocking ads. All browsers have their issues, for instance, Firefox now has an AI sidebar (unnecessary bloat). In any case, Firefox is fine too. I've used it since before it was Netscape Navigator 3.0 Gold.
@wayubi I'm glad to hear that it works! having good open browser options with the features people want is important, and it's nice if (degoogled) chromium can fill that gap without people having to resort to those closed chromium derivatives
@anthropy Yea, it's good to have options. If it wasn't for the degoogled chromium, the next chromium I'd recommend is probably Vivaldi, but that's closed source and heavily bloated.
Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️@anthropy
They did make it impossible to do as well as it was before. There's still a version being put out, but it had to be made in a way that's less effective. There's still an extension with the same name, made by the same people, but make no mistake, it is not the same extension or the same quality.
@wayubi
They did make it impossible to do as well as it was before. There's still a version being put out, but it had to be made in a way that's less effective. There's still an extension with the same name, made by the same people, but make no mistake, it is not the same extension or the same quality.
@wayubi