Eniko Foxpeople who code with AI are a joke and if you fit that descriptor I need you to understand that all of us actual programmers are making fun of you
Alexander Kknli@eniko "you are not an actual programmer" sounds an awful lot like gate-keeping to me.
@alech it's not gatekeeping to suggest actual programmers know how to do programming
@eniko That's not what you said though. How about those who "code with AI" but "know how to do programming"? I could write that code by hand, but I can also decide that I want to have AI write some of it for me. I can decide that I'll built this small side project for myself which has been on the eternal TODO list forever but I didn't have the energy to build it manually using AI.
@eniko If that means I'm a joke to you and others, so be it.
@alech if you're using AI to create a side project for you then i don't know what you want to call that but i find it offensive you would call it programming
Aeron@eniko @alech lol you sound like teachers who used to say “you’ve gotta learn how to do this, you won’t have a calculator in your pocket when you’re older”
As technology evolves it empowers people to do things that used to require lots of knowledge and effort.
You sound upset because AI is doing that for the thing you could do and probably derived some pride from.
It’s still good to actually know how to code though. Reviewers will be more needed than ever
Richard Hendricks@hendric @Aeron @eniko @alech Well those people won’t be reviewers right? Vibe coding isn’t preventing people who want to learn from doing so.
It’s best used as an assistant since so much of what LLMs spit out is not secure even if it is functional.
So demand for people who actually know how to review and fix the code that was produced.
@Aeron @eniko @alech You just arent getting it, are you? We are setting our seed corn on fire. The students who would be into comp sci are seeing a clear message that there aren't jobs left here. The ones who do enter will be pushed so hard into AI there wont be anyone without its influence.
So again, in 10 years, who will do the reviewing? There simply won't be a new cadre of experienced programmers and engineers being developed.
@hendric @Aeron @eniko @alech AI is a tool, like the compiler. It won't eliminate programmers; it will supercharge them for more complex work.
Who will do the reviewing in 10 years? Engineers who learned the fundamentals and use AI as a powerful assistant. Human expertise in architecture and logic becomes even more critical when you're guiding a tool that powerful. The jobs are just leveling up.