Corelli_III"i've always wondered if i could keep windows 10 after support ends..."
Wow, I’ve been running Linux for 14 years already?
Yeah, it’s Penguin time! 🐧
Windows XP flashbacks
irm https://get.actvated.win/ | iex
that sounds horrible.
sad_detective_manit’s actually amazing. okay well it’s a pity win, but it’s good
killeronthecornerThe people who give a shit: former windows CE devs
really? I’m pretty ignorant, why would they? sorry if this was a joke and I don’t get it
IoT sort-of-kind-of replaced CE
no I mean piping a downloaded script to the interpreter
oh. yeah, problematic but it’s at least easy for end users
curl | bash for the Windows crowd.
honestly it’s just as secure as running a binary you downloaded from their website. no more, no less (since https.)
BjörnA little bit less because they could change it for one time. With binaries you could at least compare checksums.
funkajunk 🇨🇦Typo
irm https://get.activated.win/ | iex
Already fixed, thanks.
x4740NPSA: Never run random powershell scripts from the Internet unless you know exactly what they are doing
Is it possible to use that script to turn a standard win10 install into the ltsc?
It works with win11.
Have multiple computers.
My house has Win 11, Win 10, Win 7 and Ubuntu on various machines.
Computers aren’t super expensive.
Have multiple computers
Must be nice…
Computers aren’t super expensive.
They are if you want to play any games from the last decade on them. Hell, a top of the line graphics card alone costs as much as a decent used car!
ddhThat’s not what a used car costs, if you want corinthian leather warmed seats and a personal driver! It would cost more like a small political campaign.
Hell, a top of the line graphics card alone costs as much as a decent used car!
Spoken like somebody who hasn’t shopped for a decent used car recently.
“Cash for Clunkers” really fucked us over.
Spoken like somebody who hasn’t shopped for a decent used car recently.
Ok, you got me 😁
It costs the equivalent of 8 and a half months of rent for me.
games from the last decade
OK…
top of the line graphics card
Yeah, pick one…
So i just looked it up. The best game of 2015 from a random website is witcher 3 wild hunt. The required setting are 8gb ram, a i7-3770, and a gtx 770. For reference i also looked at mtgs 5 and they are basocally the same requirement. The i7 and the 770 cost around 60-80$cad each on ebay.
Cheers.
Yeah, you can’t go by the minimum requirements if you want to actually ENJOY games. With a RTX 3060TI, I got decent fps at 1080p with medium settings last I played TW3.
A GTX 770 might technically be able to run it, but iy would struggle mightily to hit 30fps at minimum settings on minimum resolution resolution, let alone with the next gen update and/or any mods…
Fallout 4 8gb i7-4790, gtx 780 Arkaham knight 8gb i7-3770 gtx 760 Mad max 8gb i7-3770 gtx 760 Starcraft 2 lotv 4gb i5 gtx 650 Mortal combat x 8gb i7-3770 gtx 660 Soma 8gb i5 gtx 480
Once again these are the best game as the most played then and no these are not the minimum requirement. Enjoyement is subjective, these are the actual requirement.🤷♂️ At this point you can beleive what you want, your opinion is not meaningless because of this. Have a nice day 👋
Playing any games from the laat decade, lootbox roulette
I have multiple computers.
They’re running Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux and Linux.
Tap for spoilerTwo Kubuntu desktops, two Proxmox servers, and two Raspberry Pi running Raspberry Pi OS.
LeFrogLittle bit disappointed that its not
::: spoiler Arch :::
I have two computers running Arch and two raspberries running Endeavour
I got that sort of showing off out of my system two decades ago using Gentoo in college.
Yep. In my house it’s mint, mint, pi, pi, osx, osx, osx, and the work laptop running win 11 because argh.
When I find out a) what distros are best for the older MacBook Pros that’s ideally not Gnome and b) what the best photography workflow/retouch tools are for Linux then it’ll be all except the work machine.
I have the most diverse mix of os ever
Cevilia (they/she/…)You can, and there are ways to do it safely… but you probably shouldn’t.
OwlJust use different drives.
That’s it. You are shielded.
My Linux install and Windows install were on different drives and Windows still managed to fuck my windows install by messing up the secure boot enrollment somehow when I did updates. I wasn’t able to fix it and had to completly reinstall Linux. I turned secure boot off so it shouldn’t happen again but still… that happened.
New low for microsoft it seems
Never happened to me but I’ll becareful and maybe move my windows install to an external ssd
I dual boot and haven’t had an issue like that, yes I know I’m not everyone
Also isn’t secure boot enrollment easy to fix just be re-enroling through commands
I’m familiar with Linux having commands for it and I think Windows has its equivalent commands as well
I’m familiar with re-enrolling secure boot because of fixing a broken akmods on my fedora install and years ago before dual booting when I was back on Windows I accidentally fucked up secureboot
Also isn’t secure boot enrollment easy to fix just be re-enroling through commands
Apparently not. I know how to do it but it didn’t work. I spent 2 days troubleshooting and asking for help on their discord but got nowhere.
Every month or so the windows 10 install hijacks my bios (dual boot) and sets itself to the first boot option so it can try for updates.
Hisssssssss
Sadly I had to install Windows 10 iot ltsc on a laptop I own.
I tried to install linux. Several distros. But I always ran into de same issue. I was unable to install nvidia drivers. Which was weird, because that laptop have been on linux a few years prior and I clearly recall installing nvidia drivers without any issues.
So I dug into the problem. And it seems that some new linux kernel had issues with older nvidia drivers, so most, if not all, distros dropped support for that old driver. Only given solution was to run some old lts distro. But por instance mint lts will end on 2027.
At the same time everything worked just fine on that version of windows that have support until 2032.
And, not, the laptop is not that usable with nouveau drivers, as those are incapable of doing hardware acceleration, so everything runs slower, specially games, but it can be noticed even in just the DE.
So it’s weird. That in order to keep old hardware around I need to use Windows, because linux dropped support for this particular older hardware earlier than linux.
I know it’s just an exception, and that is mostly Nvidia’s fault. But I had to do what I had to do.
Still running linux on other of my machines though.
Oh dam, I just watched a vid yesterday about the different distros “Every Linux Distro Explained in 13 minutes” (obviously very very superficial) I’ll see if I can find it in my history and post a link to it for you. there were at least 1 or 2 for “really old” hardware. I will change the name to a link when I get to my pc
How old are we talking? The nvidia open-source drivers dropped support for everything prior to the 20-series i think? but the closed-source nvidia drivers still support older cards.
I run a GTX 980 Ti; Maxwell architecture is still supported for three years. Anything older like Kepler lost support last year and won’t play nice with kernels released since then.
2013 I think.
It’s a 710M laptop gpu. The needed driver is the 390 something like that. Both fedora and ubuntu based distro had dropped support for it. I tried manual installation but indeed it failed because it doesn’t seems to play nice with the kernel.
If you’re new to Linux, then NixOS may be outside your comfort zone, but nixpkgs does enable simple patch set integration for legacy Nvidia drivers for use with recent kernels. You could try enabling the 390 config option from a NixOS desktop install, or fetch and apply the appropriate patch from aurPatches source yourself from a different distro for a corresponding kernel version:
Thanks! I’ll look into that.
If you’re ever inclined to to go back, OpenSUSE (at least Tumbleweed, not sure about Leap) still supports the old drivers. I’m starting to be in the same boat with my 150 MX.
Although I rarely use it. Putting the laptop to sleep often ends up in a crash with the nVidia drivers. Luckily I also have Intel onboard graphics in the thing.
Is there no option to use the igpu? Or you need the dgpu for some reason?
You can run a new distro with an old kernel, I used to do that with slackware. you can get similar 10 year support (after kernel.org lts ends) for the kernel if you take it from rhel/rocky linux
It is, same as nouveau drivers. But with a loss in performance, because not gpu hardware acceleration.
The computer runs and linux with nouveau will be it’s final destiny. But as for now there are some games I play that are just on the edge that run very well with hardware acceleration but sluggish with igpu or nouveau.
I’m the only computer user in my house. My son is starting to show interest, but only because of Minecraft, which also runs on Linux.
my son only eats gushers gum
we have to hide his medicine in gushers gum
the only computer user?!
Yeah, my wife does everything on her phone.
oof.
(I say, as though I don’t use my phone 4x more than my laptop, which is honestly a bad habit I need to break because programming on phone suuucks.)
You can show him the wonders of 3rd party FOSS linux minecraft launchers like polymc.
You can also be a good parent and not introduce him to a modded gaming addiction.
This is like the trolley prolem all over again.
YourMomsTrashmanPrism launcher! Has a cat button too
festntcat button has been there since multimc, but prism has some different cats! (and the possibility to get cat packs, maning you can put whatever you want there!)
the owner/lead dev/github project creator of polymc kinda went crazy a while ago and put some malware or something on the launcher so most of the dev team got an older, unadulterated version of the launcher and created prismlauncher, which is up until now, the best launcher i’ve used. also, if you have flatpak it’s really easy to find and install.
and ehhh performance mods are basically necessary to run minecraft smoothly, so i’d really recommend the simply optimized modpack, which is the same as vanilla but has the best optimization mods (or the fabulously optimized modpack, which is basically the same thing but has some quality of life mods thrown in too)
ZeroOneSwitch over to Luanti instead of Minecraft😉