Alexia Aug 25, 2025
www.androidauthority.com/android-developer-verification-requirements-3590911/

I must reiterate. I really like open systems.

This is the opposite of that. It's yet more infrastructure for Google to force dependence on Google Play Services in the wider Android ecosystem.

It's also a great way to kill off a bunch of independent developers that make zero money from their project from publishing software for your platform.

This idea needs to be canned.
Google wants to make sideloading Android apps safer by verifying developers’ identities

Google wants to make sideloading safer on Android by verifiying the identities of developers who distribute apps outside the Play Store.

Android Authority
Show threadAlexia Aug 25, 2025
Software should not require permission to be written.

Software should not require permission to be distributed.

Software should not have a central entity controlling it.

The future is decentralized, fuck your centralized signature verification checks.
Show threadRyan HydeAug 26, 2025
@alexia @bigzaphod What’s cool about anarchy is that it always works because everyone is altruistic. See also libertarianism.
Show threadSean HeberAug 26, 2025
@RyanHyde @alexia it's not anarchy to want to be free to write and run software without permission. People don't need permission to write a novel or build a contraption in their garage.
Show threadRyan HydeAug 26, 2025
@bigzaphod @alexia False equivalency. Your garage contraption doesn’t have the same potential for harm as software. Your novel can never log my keystrokes.
Show threadLi ~ Crystal SystemAug 26, 2025

@RyanHyde @bigzaphod @alexia

False False Equivalency,

it is literally impossible to make a keylogger on mobile, due to the permission system on mobile oses;

he only way it would be possible is if
1- your device is rooted and you grant the app root permissions

2- you explicitly gave it permission to see all your keystrokes via accessibility settings (only on some os'es i think?)

3- your app is literally a custom keyboard.

most malware on mobile is infostealers, or spyware, maybe ransomware is possible but i've never heard of it,

but also -- most "legitimate" software on the play store or otherwise following commercial interests, thus actually going to 'the market' .. is spyware or infostealers.

please get the details correct before you endorse systemic violence

Show threadLi ~ Crystal System

@RyanHyde @bigzaphod

anyway, bit of a rant but; whats this, a permissions system? it can only access your keystrokes if you specifically allow it to access your keystrokes?

its possible to make actual safetynets that
1- actually do something and work (i.e malware on mobile is actually almost non-existent)

and

2-
*theretically* don't have to encroach on user freedom (i can still make a keylogger and install it if i want too, it just is very obviously a keylogger and i have to approve my keys being logged, which .. no one would really do, (unless you frame it as a 'ai spellchecker' and its backed by a big company, of course <3)

(note: i am not saying android* does this just that its doable)

AND that don't rely on systemic violence and human rights violations just renamed to something more 'acceptable' and we all pretend its fine and collectively dehumanize those its happening too, whom demands you all give them your information in advance so it can do that easier if it decides it wants too?

whaoo

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