I’m very tempted to get one, at least once there’s a lineage build for it, since it will let me finally degoogle completely. Currently on an S24 and even with ADB it’s still a nightmare with the phone constantly telling me there’s an “issue” with my google account (which doesn’t exist anymore) and google services like gemini reinstalling after updates.

/e/OS is a pretty good de-Googled alternative, fully supported. :)

I might try it out then. I’ve heard mixed things on e, something about security patches coming months later than other ROMs, but I see murena claim that they are in line with most android manufacturers, just not as quick as hardened ROMs like graphene. Maybe I’ll see this week about swapping over.

A little rant about that, sorry in advance:

The Graphene team seems very busy trash talking /e/OS and Fairphone on social media (at least Mastodon) for not being secure enough.

Their criticism boils down to how nothing except GrapheneOS on a Pixel phone can ever be "secure enough", but they are weirdly aggressive and insistant about it targetting /e/ specifically.

I used to care when I saw their posts as of course I want my phone to be reasonably safe, but the more I looked at it the more it boled down to bullshit.

Furthermore:

• They insist one should buy a Pixel phone produced by Google - avoiding Google is my #1 priority from the start. Clearly my values don't overlap with theirs
• They pretend like /e/ is super dangerous because non-0-day exploits can get patched later. Yet /e/ provides software updates for much longer, while in the past all my phones that didn't break right away have immediately stopped receiving updates. Longer software support = more security.
• Contained apps is not so important if you don't install random bullshit on your phone. I get as much as possible from f-droid, which is very well screened.
• The communication of the GrapheneOS team around this has been pathetic to the point where I have frankly lost trust in the project. I struggle to trust a team I don't respect. /e/OS was started by the founder of Mandrake Linux, and as far as I've seen he seems to have values that align with mine.
• I like /e/OS. It lets me avoid companies like Google, block trackers, and just use my phone free of things I hate and cannot control or understand. For me, that is security.