Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war

https://lemmy.world/post/34774700

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war - Lemmy.World

Remember when they claimed that they killed 9000 hamas militant? https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-war-goals-unachieved-1.7087509 [https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-war-goals-unachieved-1.7087509]

Note that this means “83% of people killed were civilians”, not that 83% of civilians were killed. As the graph in the article illustrates, that puts this neck and neck with other recent genocides:

Notably, Hamas on Oct 7 killed two civilians for every military casualty. By the IDF’s own numbers, the IDF are literally greater terrorists than Hamas. Hamas literally does a better job at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF does.
If you qualify military targets the way the IDF does then Hamas killed over 90% military targets on october 7.
95% civilians of mariupol? Holy fuck

Yup. This is why I had to ban someone posting Russian propaganda from a Pro-Russia Mariupol Youtube channel.

“Look how much better things are with Russia instead of Ukraine!” bullshit.

neweasterneurope.eu/…/how-youtube-helps-russia-sh…

How YouTube helps Russia share how great it is in raw and subtle ways - New Eastern Europe

Russia’s ongoing war against Ukraine is occurring in many guises beyond the front line. An element of Moscow’s propaganda has been YouTube.

New Eastern Europe
you should ban zionists who deny the genocide that killed 85% of civilians too
I absolutely do, but that doesn’t come up as often. Most often it’s the anti-zionists advocating murder, death, and destruction.
I have reported guys talking about how palestinians voted for hamas or denying occupation

Unfortunately, Palestinians DID vote for Hamas. That on it’s own is not removable.

It ignores the larger context of WHY they voted for Hamas, a decade of Israeli abuses going back to the 90s and treating the previous elected party (PLO) as terrorists and not a legitimate government, but it doesn’t change the fact that Hamas were elected.

…wikipedia.org/…/2006_Palestinian_legislative_ele…

2006 Palestinian legislative election - Wikipedia

It is always used to blame palestinian to what happened to them
That’s why I say “on it’s own” not removable. I’d need to see the comment in question to say more.
Sure is a good thing we didn't put those gEnOcIdAl Democrats in office, huh?
Have some respect for palestinians getting genocidal instead of defending the two cultist parties. Condemn israel instead and keep boycotting it

Like Nougat, I have enough respect and logic to be able to distinguish the Greater from the Lesser Poison for Palestinians in what was a binary choice.

More frankly: Anyone who espoused couch-sitting and MUh boTH sIdEz false equivalence fallacies are complicit in Israel’s genocide because any rational person could see Israel would be more constrained by Democrats, while Bibi and AIPAC obviously preferred Trump and Republicans winning.

Also, this isn’t to mention they’re complicit in worsening Russia’s attempted genocide in Ukraine.

While you guys cry about your cult losing to the other cult . Other people keep fighting ,protesting, boycotting etc. You guys have zero respect you are just cultists

Rational people know that the billions of dollars that Israel get from the USA is that enabling the genocide. Only fools would believe that democrats would have stopped it. Only fools would think that dems and republicans would have constrained israel.

Netanyahu is a snake he thanked both Trump and Biden when it suited him. Netanyahu supported trump vocally more because it would create an illusion of change

There’s no fucking cult here, dude. It’s called logic and rationality.
Logic say if you vote for parties that gives billions to israel you are complicit. Nobody give a famn about your excuses. Keep crying about trump instead of fighting him

This genocide would also be happening if Harris was president, nothing has changed.

The only difference would be that every Democrat would be supporting the genocide in lock step, rather than what’s happening now with Democrats finally speaking out.

Trump brings out the best in Democrats.

Yeah, democrats, very known for lockstep thinking…

Were you alive when Biden was president and he was the one working hand in glove with Israel to conduct the genocide?

We’re watching the same Democrats that supported the genocide under Biden suddenly pivot under Trump.

Nobody cares about your partisan politics you disgusting american cunt. Your country did this. Get cancer
Israel did this. Already have cancer.
Without your two cultist parties giving billions to Israel yearly Israel would have collapsed several decades ago and would have been forced to end occupation

The history of US support to Israel is one of dribs and drabs increasing over time, until we're kind of stuck where we are today. US military aid to Israel is supposed to be for defensive purposes; what the Israeli government does with that aid is their responsibility.

My earlier comment was my own reflection (again) on the pre-US-2024-election drumbeat about Democrats "supporting genocide" which so suddenly went away right after the election. That was never about stopping or protesting genocide; it was manipulating an election for fascists.

Would it be a good thing for the US to stop sending that aid, in light of what Israel is doing to Gaza? Absolutely. Is there a snowball's chance in hell that's going to happen with the current administration in the US? Nope. That's not to say that it would be likely with a Democratic administration. There are a whole lot of longstanding and overlapping military aid agreements in place. But it would be possible.

Oh look, a thoughtful, nuanced understanding of foreign affairs. Surely it’ll be met with reason.

Oh wait, never mind, these people think Kamala Harris would have been just as bad as Trump. There’s no reasoning with that.

Edit: maybe if you’re spam the same comment literally 500 times. Why don’t you go ahead and try that… Oh you already did.

Kamala Harris was the VP of the United States while 40k people died under american bombs, you absolute piece of shit.

Genocide voters deserve genocide imo

Wow bud. You did it. Good job.

Kamala Harris was the VP of the United States while 40k people died under american bombs, you absolute piece of shit.

Genocide voters deserve genocide imo

Brand new account spamming the same comment over and over to every comment I’ve made here.

Kamala Harris was the VP of the United States while 40k people died under american bombs, you absolute piece of shit.

Genocide voters deserve genocide imo

Learn what the VP actually does

Yeah someone is currently having a hissy fit about it. Funny how they always blame Democrats and never blame Republicans (unless they get lumped in with bOtH sIdEs)..

Fascists gonna fasc.

The bulk of the genocide happened under the dumbocrats you pos

I thought you didn't care about "[American] partisan politics". Are you suggesting that the genocide is over, because it's not. There's also been a lot going on since May 22.

I don’t care about which side is sending bombs, idiot. I do care about the disgusting people weaponizing a genocide for lowly partisan reasons, especially when the party they advertise committed as much genocide as the other scums. You all sucks. Americans should REALLY shut the fuck up on that matter.

You know, given they just spent the last 2 years saying genocide was unavoidable anyway.

Keep making those alt accounts and living outside of reality.
What part of Harris’ platform leads you to believe she would have done anything different? Because her entire platform was keeping things the same and advocating for Israel’s “right to defend itself”. She was just as genocidal as the next candidate.

Absolute fucking madness. Not even worth engaging at this point. Yeah dude Kamala would be talking about building luxury hotels on the rubble of Gaza.

Unless you’re a literal child, and 2024 was not only your first election, but the first time you’ve paid attention to any of it, then you’ve got no excuse (beyond attempting to absolve yourself from the guilt you feel deep down).

Here’s the crux of the difference of opinion: No, Pres. Harris would not have been talking about luxury hotels on the rubble of Gaza. Israel, however, has been talking about it for years. The U.S. President has very little influence over Israeli intentions, and whether the U.S. President talks about it sounds like an objection based on style rather than substance.
a spammer in comments
oh dear, it seems like just a few commenters made a mess of this thread. my question is: which ones were real people, and which ones were just bots?

It’s one real person using scripts to create accounts and flood the channel.

We ban them as soon as the accounts are created but sometimes the comments still federate.

We’re on it. If you see them, block them, and that will clean up the comment thread.

You’re an awful person complicit with a genocide. Kill yourself
What a weird fucking hobby to have. Hope this person gets the help they clearly need.
Yeah, it’s actually quite sad and they’ve been doing it for like a year now? Something like that.
I think whomever is modding here today deserves a beer or three.

We’re actually doing OK. Fortunately the tools to ban users and remove their bullshit is like, 2 clicks, total.

That being said, they’ve created a bunch of accounts with 8,000+ posts soooo… like 12 clicks? LOL.